He's a 19 year old goaltender who isn't NHL ready. His value is extremely low unless a team is very high on him for some reason.
The best way to maximise his value is to develop him and hope he becomes a great backup. Then maybe we can get a fairly high pick, or a good prospect, for him the same way that Vancouver did with Schneider.
At this point, it's unlikely that his value in a trade would be anything more than a throw-in.
He's a 19 year old goaltender who isn't NHL ready. His value is extremely low unless a team is very high on him for some reason.
The best way to maximise his value is to develop him and hope he becomes a great backup. Then maybe we can get a fairly high pick, or a good prospect, for him the same way that Vancouver did with Schneider.
At this point, it's unlikely that his value in a trade would be anything more than a throw-in.
I remember the Carey Price growing pains and all the calls for patience, that he's "only 21" , then it was he's "only 22", then ... well you get the idea.
Fucale is 19 ****ing years old. Fans need to stop this nonsense.
On the trading chip side, goalies don't have trade value until they are beyond-all-doubt ready for the NHL. He's not worth anything at the moment, and that's not a commentary on how he may turn out it's commentary on how young and raw he is.
This!
The problems I saw were rebounds and inability to catch the puck with his glove hand. Those are all problems easily fixable.
Just as a fun fact Quick was drafted the same year as Price - never played for the US junior team and today is considered one of the top goalies. Maybe we should give Fucale some time to develop.
Also seeing how Bergevin's team is able to asset talent i.e. Colberg and Vail, I think I'll leave it in their hands.
Originally Posted by rockjngo
Do you guys think he has the "drive" to be a top goalie or a starter in the NHL?
Personally I don't think he has the Patrick Roy, Carey Price "drive", he's more like Dustin Tokarski than Price. When games matter Roy and Price shows up. 4 goals in one of the most important game of Fucale's life isn't not good.
I think we should package him for a top player.
Not to mention, Price is 27. He's entering his prime. Fucale is 19, Price should be able to play until 35. Fucale will be 27 by then.
trade bait
I think if we have selected a goalie in the second round of a very deep draft who at 19 is still having trouble catching a puck then your faith in Bergevin's team, at least with respect to this 'prospect', is misplaced.
At this stage in their development every goalie has holes in their game.
Look at the Slovak goalie - who I agree with the selection committee was lights out great - had huge holes in his game. He could be had in the upper part of the net high on the glove side and above both shoulders. The reason he wasn't exposed in this tournament is because most of the players couldn't exploit that weakness but if he doesn't improve that aspect he'll never play in top leagues.
Rebound control is coach-able and improving his glove hand means just time spent doing repetitions.
Only on HF Boards can you read definitive projections on 19-year-old goaltenders. ..and not just one or two projections, but several. A 19-year-old goalie who has set league records for wins and now has a Memorial Cup and WJC championship.
Not even the pro scouts and GMs are cocky enough to do that watching these players live, but when you are an HF Board poster all you have to do is watch a few tournament games on TV and a goalies' future can be projected without a shred of doubt. There are some incredibly gifted people on here..supposedly too talented to bother taking lowly positions as NHL executives. I feel honoured to be in such hallowed company.
Do you guys think he has the "drive" to be a top goalie or a starter in the NHL?
Personally I don't think he has the Patrick Roy, Carey Price "drive", he's more like Dustin Tokarski than Price. When games matter Roy and Price shows up. 4 goals in one of the most important game of Fucale's life isn't not good.
I think we should package him for a top player.
I don't think he represents an "untouchable" prospect to us, not in the sense of representing elements we desperately want to see as part of our roster growth, the way I think of others like Scherbak, McCarron, DLR, Beaulieu, Tinordi... he's just a long-term project in an area we've currently got locked down for the forseeable future in goal. In that sense, if another team wanted to place good value on him in a trade discussion, he's obviously moveable.
But... most teams have goaltending prospects and aren't going to trade for him at anything other than "token" value, which is basically like a 2nd round pick, and I think at that threshold we're better off just keeping him in the pipeline and letting him progress, work with Waite for the next 3-4 years, see what we have. There's no rush, no need to label him right now when he's 19. He has had a great junior career, and still another run at the Memorial Cup to come, and then plenty of time to let him develop in the AHL. He'll work things out, or he won't, but you need to have a goaltending prospect in the pipeline, and even while he has some flaws to work on, his overall body of work and accomplishments are hard to match. We could do a lot worse than him for having a young prospect goalie coming along in the pipeline.