The few bringing up Babcock here may want to read about Franzen’s experience. Franzen called him the “worst person” he’s ever met and Chelios accused him of verbally assaulting players. Not to mention the BS he pulled in Toronto.
I think he's looking at two or three Europeans as well, as he stated they don't have to have coached in North America.
Fedorov
Ronnberg
Gronborg
>In three years, we get Gallant.
Do you think that the coach we are getting now will be the one we will be competetive in playoffs with?Yzerman is not hiring a coach to be a fall guy and ultimately bring Gallant in.
Gallant is not taking the Rangers job as they exit a rebuild to leave a competitive team to join a Red Wings job as they exit a rebuild.
If things go well, the Gallant ship has sailed, and you can kiss that dream goodbye.
Maybe thats because new information comes to light and influences opinions to change.Funny how in 2012, on this board, you risked getting tarred and feathered for criticizing Babcock's coaching.
Now people are all like "He's human garbage" and that's A-OK.
Bringing back Babcock doesn't make much sense at all, if you ask me.
Guys who I think he's looking at.
Rob Zettler.
Derek Lalonde.
Jeff Halpern
Joel Q
Brad Lambert
Darby Hendrickson
Steve Ott
Paul Maurice
Alex Tanguay
Todd Richards
Kirk Muller
Do you think that the coach we are getting now will be the one we will be competetive in playoffs with?
That's worrisome. Because we are not all of a sudden going to be a great team.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
I don't think that's obvious at all and I don't see what you're seeing after watching the presser.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
In 2012 we didn’t know about the how he treated his players in Detroit and Toronto. That stuff all came out later.
This came out in 2019: Ex-Red Wing Johan Franzen calls Mike Babcock 'the worst (person) I have ever met'
Hearsay and first-hand accounts from players quoted in articles are two very different things.We didn't know. We didn't have links. But we knew.
It was already well known around Detroit that the players hated Babcock's guts.
We knew in 12-13 that Flippula left Detroit, despite being great friends with so many Red Wings, and would not even consider staying to play if Babcock was the coach.
The media didn't cover it - because the Detroit sports media doesn't have any guts.
But lots of fans knew it. You can't keep that hate covered.
It was wasn't a hard fact - but many of us on these boards knew it was true.
I remember when Commie broke the door down, people shit all over him.
When was that? 2014? 2015?
I didn't get this impression at all. But if it gets to that point then meh. Good luck to him. I honestly don't feel particularly "married" to him as a Red Wing.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
Consider he is fresh off a long season where they lost a lot of games. Probably wouldn't want to sit there and answer questions either. May not really mean anything.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
Hearsay and first-hand accounts from players quoted in articles are two very different things.
He said he hopes that he gets an extension done this summer. He did not want to seem complacent so he said "you cant be in this situation forever". I think thats hyperbole not context on wanting out of this situation. He understands he could get traded though or not signed, but he indicated that he wants to stay here and wants an extension.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
Sounds clear to me. A high pace, high ceiling guy with flashes of elite skill. So no Geekie or Kasper"We need some surprises within our drafts. We can't expect to pick in the top 10 every year."
I wish I knew who Yzerman is talking about because I missed the name but he's saying very good things about him. Anyone catch who?
"He's already powerful. He's already explosive... I don't want to overhype him but we're cautiously optimistic he'll be a good NHLer."
who Stevie?! Who?!
True, but people are pretty duplicitous when it comes to that. Depending on the issue, it could be : "It's only hearsay. Let's not have a witch hunt." Or, it could be: "Where there's smoke, there's fire." And a lot of times it's the same person, but different issues. We can be very morally flexible when it suits us.Hearsay and first-hand accounts from players quoted in articles are two very different things.
I wasn’t shocked he was a scumbag.It was well known.
Today, it's accepted as fact.
And besides, most of the "narrative police" around wings boards shit all over Commodore. Isn't that "first person?"
2013I wasn’t shocked he was a scumbag.
But it added a different level for me when I heard Franzen describe it how he did.
I thought Commy was telling some truth, but even that was a few years after the original time you said IIRC?
Commodore isn't what one would call an unbiased source. He blamed Babcock for ruining his career long before he joined Detroit.2013
Mike Commodore rips Mike Babcock, claims Columbus coach waived him over jealousy - Yahoo Sports
Mike Commodore was a fan favorite during his NHL days, winning a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes and being one of our more whimsical characters (although he never got around to fulfilling his destiny and wearing No. 64). He’s … Continue reading →sports.yahoo.com
No player or coach is an unbiased source.Commodore isn't what one would call an unbiased source. He blamed Babcock for ruining his career long before he joined Detroit.
He's talking about Elmer Soderblom."We need some surprises within our drafts. We can't expect to pick in the top 10 every year."
I wish I knew who Yzerman is talking about because I missed the name but he's saying very good things about him. Anyone catch who?
"He's already powerful. He's already explosive... I don't want to overhype him but we're cautiously optimistic he'll be a good NHLer."
who Stevie?! Who?!
Exactly. He wants to start negotiations with them to. Thats when Larkin and Bert can ask if he plans on being more competitive and spending some of that boatload of cap space.Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
Some here have recommended Torts. He has plenty of detractors as well from players, the media, etc.2013
Mike Commodore rips Mike Babcock, claims Columbus coach waived him over jealousy - Yahoo Sports
Mike Commodore was a fan favorite during his NHL days, winning a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes and being one of our more whimsical characters (although he never got around to fulfilling his destiny and wearing No. 64). He’s … Continue reading →sports.yahoo.com