NHL Entry Draft Your Preference for 2020-5th Overall Pick ?

[Crosside]

For me it’s a no brainer if Detroit don’t take Raymond, you have to take him. The second best skater after Stutzle, high iq , move his feet all the time, excellent shot close to Holtz. Can t wait to see him now that he gained weight

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Based on what exactly? Laf has yet to play a game in the NHL. Last year people would have you believe Hughes was going to put up 50 points easily and he was barely able to get half of that. Based on my viewings of both, the difference isn't astronomical and Rossi is better in some areas.

It's not just Laf (who I think is in a completely different tier than Rossi). I would be completely, utterly shocked if Rossi becomes better than Byfield. Byfield has much more upside and is already way better than Rossi was at the same age.

As far as Laf vs Rossi, I really don't see any areas where Rossi is better. And I don't see the relevance to talking about Hughes last year. They are completely different prospects. Lafreniere, since he was a pre-teen, has done nothing to suggest he won't be a surefire superstar in the NHL.

I have no problem if the Sens take him at 5 but to think he would end up top 2 in a redraft is baffling to me.

 

[Sweatred]

It's not just Laf (who I think is in a completely different tier than Rossi). I would be completely, utterly shocked if Rossi becomes better than Byfield. Byfield has much more upside and is already way better than Rossi was at the same age.

As far as Laf vs Rossi, I really don't see any areas where Rossi is better. And I don't see the relevance to talking about Hughes last year. They are completely different prospects. Lafreniere, since he was a pre-teen, has done nothing to suggest he won't be a surefire superstar in the NHL.

I have no problem if the Sens take him at 5 but to think he would end up top 2 in a redraft is baffling to me.

You don’t need to think of everything in absolutes ... I don’t even like Rossi but I can concede he has enough skill that down the road he could possibly Redraft as a top 2.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

You don’t need to think of everything in absolutes ... I don’t even like Rossi but I can concede he has enough skill that down the road he could possibly draft as a top 2.

I didn't say it isn't possible. I said it's not something worth deleting your account over because the odds are low. If you want to risk deleting your account, just say he will be better than whoever we take at 5.

 

[bicboi64]

I'd be fine with Rossi or Holtz. Slight preference to Holtz if we can get Byfield or draft Stutzle with every intention to have him play centre. Would be nice to get some RW prospects with high end potential. After Batherson (who i still hope makes a case for the centre position), we have Abramov who can play either wing but it'd be nice to have a natural RW.

 

[SensFactor]

Rossi 100% at 5. If Detroit takes Rossi at 4 then I go Raymond.

Stutzle/Byfield and then Rossi/Raymond. That would be a heck of start to the draft.

 

[SensFactor]

Rossi trust me. Rossi is the answer. If I end up wrong on this I will close my HF account.

I feel exactly the same way. I've posted numerous times how Rossi is going to be a star. Watch him and you see Alfie, Backstrom and Datsyuk. I was adamant about Tkachuk over Zadina and this year I have Rossi over Perfetti/Drysdale and he's tied with Raymond.

 

[bicboi64]

Whoops, forgot to include that I want Drysdale before Rossi or Holtz, but am assuming he gets scooped before our 5th overall selection! Won't be end of the world if we didn't get him but definitely prefer adding another RD prospect!

 

[senswon]

For those all about Rossi, would you be as bullish about him if he didn't play for the 67s?

Every write up I see has this mentioned.

I don't debate that he's skilled, I just think a beefier Raymond would serve our team better. His speed, motor, and 2 way game is made for our high tempo club.
I personally also feel that Rossi will be a winger to be most effective.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

For those all about Rossi, would you be as bullish about him if he didn't play for the 67s?

Every write up I see has this mentioned.

I don't debate that he's skilled, I just think a beefier Raymond would serve our team better. His speed, motor, and 2 way game is made for our high tempo club.
I personally also feel that Rossi will be a winger to be most effective.

Here's what stands out to me about Rossi. The guy is so mature and cool on the puck. He doesn't force anything and his passes are extremely crisp. That type of skill is a good indicator that he's going to be a star in the league. How many players in junior do we know that were all flash but zero substance. Way too many to count. Rossi doesn't shoot the puck like Holtz/Quinn, he doesn't drive the play like Lafreniere, he doesn't stickhandle like Stutzle, but he's way better at them at not making mistakes with the puck. That skill is very hard to come by (think of Mark Stone/Pavel Datsyuk).

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I didn't say it isn't possible. I said it's not something worth deleting your account over because the odds are low. If you want to risk deleting your account, just say he will be better than whoever we take at 5.

Very kind of you for not wanting me to delete my account.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

For those all about Rossi, would you be as bullish about him if he didn't play for the 67s?

Every write up I see has this mentioned.

I don't debate that he's skilled, I just think a beefier Raymond would serve our team better. His speed, motor, and 2 way game is made for our high tempo club.
I personally also feel that Rossi will be a winger to be most effective.

Rossi has an outstanding motor and two way game. I think he belongs in the running for a F at 5 along with Raymond and Perfetti. Raymond is a good player but he is being overrated in this poll. Went thru all this in 2018 with Zadina, Zadina , Zadina as well.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Rossi has an outstanding motor and two way game. I think he belongs in the running for a F at 5 along with Raymond and Perfetti. Raymond is a good player but he is being overrated in this poll. Went thru all this in 2018 with Zadina, Zadina , Zadina as well.

Raymond is far superior to a guy like Zadina. Raymond is arguably the third best forward in this draft.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Here's what stands out to me about Rossi. The guy is so mature and cool on the puck. He doesn't force anything and his passes are extremely crisp. That type of skill is a good indicator that he's going to be a star in the league. How many players in junior do we know that were all flash but zero substance. Way too many to count. Rossi doesn't shoot the puck like Holtz/Quinn, he doesn't drive the play like Lafreniere, he doesn't stickhandle like Stutzle, but he's way better at them at not making mistakes with the puck. That skill is very hard to come by (think of Mark Stone/Pavel Datsyuk).

IMO Perfetti has that same trait while being more dynamic with a higher offensive upside. Again just my opinion. Also I don’t think he’s way better than Lafreniere at what you are describing.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Raymond is far superior to a guy like Zadina. Raymond is arguably the third best forward in this draft.

Now we can say that ...Zadina was widely expected to go 3OA and lots of Sens fans wanted him at 4 zall I am saying. I like Raymond as well . I hope he can do some of the magic he did at the U18s WJC and at the Hlinka .. in the SHL this year. I think Rossi is a safer pick .. while providing tons of upside as a complete player. Anyway Sens fans are overwhelmingly taking Raymond... I certainly would not be sad if the Sens took him.

 

[Sweatred]

Here's what stands out to me about Rossi. The guy is so mature

That’s cause he is older than everyone else ...

 

[Adele Dazeem]

That’s cause he is older than everyone else ...

By a few weeks or a couple of months?

 

[BondraTime]

Should be Perfetti, then I’d go Sanderson/Raymond.

 

[StoicSensFan]

And how are you gonna do that.

Teams with bare cupboards and no cap space, teams looking to move a contract and their first round pick for prospects and 2nd rounders (possibly Nashville and others), etc. I think we have the flexibility to pull it off, interesting to see what we do.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

For me, Rossi's willingness to get his nose dirty and battle with much bigger opponents is what gives him a slight edge over Raymond. There's a video of Rossi flipping 6 foot 5 and 220 pound Serron Noel on his backside as they battled for position.

I don't think we can go wrong ... I'd be happy with any of Rossi, Raymond, Drysdale or Perfetti.

 

[Sweatred]

By a few weeks or a couple of months?

Some weeks, most months, and a few like Byfield almost a year.

 

[senswon]

By a few weeks or a couple of months?

he missed the cutoff for last years draft by 6 days I believe...

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

he missed the cutoff for last years draft by 6 days I believe...

Sens like those older guys.. What else should Rossi have done this year as such an old player... You realize there are a number of 2001 late birthdays close to the cut off this year in the top 15.
3 - 4 months doesn't mean much either.

 

[senswon]

Sens like those older guys.. What else should Rossi have done this year as such an old player... You realize there are a number of 2001 late birthdays close to the cut off this year in the top 15.
3 - 4 months doesn't mean much either.

3-4 months?
He'll be 19 on Sept.23.
Raymond will be 19 at the end of march
Perfetti 19 end of January
Drysdale 19 beginning of April

Interesting to note Jack Quinn is also 19 Sept 19

For me there's too many question marks.

1. Can he improve his speed?
2. How will he be used within our lineup?--Do you see him supplanting L. Brown/J.Norris?
3. The disparity with his point totals vs weaker competition/stronger teams

The fact that he's almost a year past when he COULD have been selected is interesting.
Like , where would he have gone in last year's draft?

For me even the eyeball test is sorta lacking. Like if I watch tape between Rossi/Perfetti/Raymond--who appears to be the more dynamic player?

I'm not anti-Rossi....like I said earlier I think he's talented.
But for me he's in the 6-9 range.

 

[Taluss]

Drysdale!! Been on that wagon for a while now