Aavco Cup
"I can make you cry in this room"
- Sep 5, 2013
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I view it that way because evidence suggest the other way is inferior.
What evidence is reliable before the season started?
Also how can you measure disappointment?
I view it that way because evidence suggest the other way is inferior.
"Chevy sucks"
"Maurice sucks"
"Kompon sucks"
"Huddy sucks"
"Flaherty sucks"
"Zinger sucks"
"Chipman sucks" (he's greedy, too)
(Fill in anyone else that I've missed)
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A tale of two (disappointing) teams...
Winnipeg Jets
PP% + PK%
2014/15 - 99.3
2015/16 - 93.2
2016/17 - 93.7
Dallas Stars
PP% + PK%
2014/15 - 100.0
2015/16 - 104.4
2016/17 - 91.9 amazed
I think most of us expected more. Having a team with the defensive issues falls on the coach. We can't blame the offensive side of the game.
What evidence is reliable before the season started?
Also how can you measure disappointment?
Chevy needs to take off his beer goggles and fix our coaching and goaltending problem before it very soon becomes a GM problem.
I just josh about Nill because he was lauded around here as the paragon of an NHL GM. He's not as good as some used to say, and not as bad as his team's performance this season.
Since January 1st our top 4 on D (Byfuglien, Trouba, Morrissey, Enstrom) have been relatively healthy with minimal missed time. Yes Myers has been out.
Enstrom - 5 games (Feb 14-21st Personal reasons) 2 games (Mar 11th vs. Calgary, Mar 13th vs. Nasville)
Trouba - 3 games (Feb 21st vs. Toronto, Feb 28th vs. Minnesota, Mar 13th vs. Nashville)
It was a hit to take losing Enstrom for 5 games (personal reasons) and having Myers out, totally. BUT, that happened mid-February. So for all of December and January and 5 games of February leading up to Enstrom missing time, we had a healthy top 4 defensive unit. Chiarot missed 12 games (Jan 13th-Feb 7th).
Which current playoff team will the Jets be displacing next season? Keep in mind the Pacific will be feasting on Vegas.
Will Chevy be more aggressive/successful addressing holes than the GMs in Dallas, LA, and St. Louis this summer?
The Jets not making the playoffs is not a surprise. Injuries and schedule are legitimate excuses. However, injuries and schedule do not account for poor defensive play, goaltending, poor power play, poor penalty killing, lack of discipline, concerns of the poor seasons of Buff and Enstrom, faceoffs, player usage, team toughness and general style of play. Based on watching Chevy and Maurice operate, there is little optimism these areas will ever be corrected as many of the problems are same year after year and never been addressed. The disappointment is not so much in their record this year but more in the concern that Chevy and Maurice are not capable of getting this team to the next level.
You can make a projection using a model rather than using "expert opinions" that have a long standing history of being poor and worse than models.
Disappointment is under achieving those expectations.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with your analysis here, Whileee. Although you might be jumping the gun a bit on Kompon. I don't think the sample size is large enough to make that call yet, although given enough time with Maurice, in all likelihood, he will suck as well. You also left out Pascal Vincent and Jimmy Roy, whose suckage is even more damaging from a developmental standpoint. Don't even get me started on the scouting staff. That could be a thread in itself. But given our diminishing pipeline,... Mark Hillier sucks. Who else? Oh yeah, our training staff. With the number of man-games lost, they clearly aren't getting the job done with either injury prevention or treatment. So, Dr Slaunwhite et al, you suck.
^ Dallas for sure. Forgot Allen still has 3 years left, has picked up his game recently.
Are they buying out Lehtinen? Niemi? Both?
Both only have 1 year left. So either a buyout or trade & retain salary. They can't afford to run with that duo again next season.