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- Mar 14, 2005
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His average is second line competition, which generally means top lines at home and 3rd lines on the road.
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I've shown where his opponents' ice time ranks him.
Again though real differences in competition between NHL players are simply to small to have much impact on their overall performance over the course of a season. (Single games or series can be a different matter!)
The single biggest failure of the hockey analytics movement is this irrational belief, and has led to all of their biggest gaffes.
It simply isn't true. And any belief that it is true is simply a matter of using stats which don't appreciate the actual difference.
It’s easier to get a player "tough matchups" when the other team doesn’t care. IOW they say "you want to play him against my top line? Ok I can live with that, lets go."
Dion Phaneuf routinely had the toughest competition in the NHL when he was with the Leafs. Part of that is because he was all the Leafs had, the other was that the other teams didn’t care about avoiding the matchup. He didn’t suddenly become a more effective player when he was shipped off to Ottawa.
This makes no sense. Lowry plays Center, why would you flip him with a Wing like Connor or Wheeler?
Lowry plays a relatively low event game, which is great for defensive, not as good for production. If you flipped Lowry for a C like Scheifele, you’d likely see sigher better possession numbers but reduced production making it a net-negative.
Are you saying that Hyman has skills that let him succeed on a top line, while Lowry doesn't? Isn't this something which should be credited to Hyman and not to Lowry?
They don’t match the Jets top line. That little detail aside, hockey is a strong link game and there are diminishing returns for adding another top player to a line.
They not only match the Jets' top line - they better it.
The way to maximize your roster is to spread your top players around and fit in roll players where the things they can provide do the most good.
In the case of Hyman he’s a good puck retriever, but doesn’t bring much else to the table but that provides a lot of value when paired with 2 good offensive players. It’s have much less value if you tried to play him on a 3rd or 4th line.
So (in your opinion) Hyman brings more to a 1st line, and Lowry brings more to a 3rd line.
Is this supposed to be a criticism against Hyman?