Blue Jays Discussion: Winter Discontent III: Discontent with a Vengeance

[Discoverer]

It'll be interesting to see how the Giants fill CF now since they're so desperate for someone who can play there.

 

[TF97]

Assuming they put McCutchen in RF (which they should), then Jarrett Parker is currently slated to be a depth piece. He would be a nice addition to platoon with Pearce.

 

[The Nemesis]

In before "The Jays could've bettered the SF offer if they really wanted to. What a failure by management" type comments. Even though there's no indication that they even got the chance or that Pittsburgh simply really likes the pieces SF could offer.

 

[hoc123]

Things are lining up for us and Cain. Who else is even Interested?

From rumors teams that have been or is still interested in Cain are apparently the Jays, Brewers, Rangers and maybe the Cubs. The Jays look easily like the best fit.

 

[phillipmike]

Giants should still have interest. They are trying to get rid of Pence.

Baltimore, Rangers, KC and Diamondbacks. Maybe the Cubs but i doubt it.

 

[TF97]

Things are lining up for us and Cain. Who else is even Interested?

I made this argument to Zeke a couple weeks ago. I still don’t think Cain had much of a market to begin with.

 

[Woodman19]

If we can get Cain I would flip Pillar to the Giants to play CF (if I get something useful)

 

[Eyedea]

Wouldn't be surprised if Giants go 5 for Cain just to load up next year and then have him slide to right once Cutch leaves.

 

[phillipmike]

Wouldn't be surprised if Giants go 5 for Cain just to load up next year and then have him slide to right once Cutch leaves.

This makes a lot of sense.

 

[hoc123]

Wouldn't be surprised if Giants go 5 for Cain just to load up next year and then have him slide to right once Cutch leaves.

Bob Nightengale says the Giants are out of the Cain sweepstakes. Makes me wonder if the Giants sees McCutchen as a CF.

 

[Woodman19]

Wouldn't be surprised if Giants go 5 for Cain just to load up next year and then have him slide to right once Cutch leaves.

They would likely have to unload a contract to do that.

 

[Discoverer]

The Jays could've bettered the SF offer if they really wanted to. What a failure by management!

 

[Cor]

Hernandez-Pillar-Cain would be pretty sweet.

Ideally we can move Morales somewhere as well.

 

[Woodman19]

Hernandez-Pillar-Cain would be pretty sweet.

Ideally we can move Morales somewhere as well.

With Pearce at DH

 

[TF97]

Bob Nightengale says the Giants are out of the Cain sweepstakes. Makes me wonder if the Giants sees McCutchen as a CF.

Judging by some of the decisions that San Francisco has made in the last few years, I would expect that they view McCutchen as a CF, and it will likely end horribly. I think they should go out and get Hamilton, sacrifice the offence to get the player who might fit the best at AT&T.

 

[Eyedea]

Bob Nightengale says the Giants are out of the Cain sweepstakes. Makes me wonder if the Giants sees McCutchen as a CF.

Nightengale loves to be wrong too.

They would likely have to unload a contract to do that.

Either move Pence, backload Cain, or in an extreme case defer some salary.

 

[hoc123]

Nightengale loves to be wrong too.



Either move Pence, backload Cain, or in an extreme case defer some salary.

How much money do they even have? Plus moving Pence is easier said then done.

Edit: They are apparently 1M below the tax line so if they want to stay under it "not sure if they do or not" there is no way they can get Cain without something like a Pence trade, which would surprise me.

 

[Woodman19]

How much money do they even have? Plus moving Pence is easier said then done.

Edit: They are apparently 1M below the tax line so if they want to stay under it "not sure if they do or not" there is no way they can get Cain without something like a Pence trade, which would surprise me.

That's what I'm thinking. They don't even have the farm to entice someone into trading for him.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Feel bad for Pittsburgh. The Giants farm is doodoo, which pretty much guarantees a second underwhelming return in less than a week.

 

[hoc123]

Feel bad for Pittsburgh. The Giants farm is doodoo, which pretty much guarantees a second underwhelming return in less than a week.

The Pirates aren't even getting Chris Shaw, which means that despite trading their 2 stars, they won't get a top 100 prospects for either of them.

 

[Discoverer]

The Pirates aren't even getting Chris Shaw, which means that despite trading their 2 stars, they won't get a top 100 prospects for either of them.

Not Beede or Ramos either. So a non-top prospect from a horrible farm system.

 

[Woodman19]

Not Beede or Ramos either. So a non-top prospect from a horrible farm system.

That's sad lol

 

[hoc123]

Not Beede or Ramos either. So a non-top prospect from a horrible farm system.

Where did you hear no Beede or Ramos?

 

[Discoverer]

Where did you hear no Beede or Ramos?

MLBTR via various sources.

Giants, Pirates Agree To Andrew McCutchen Trade

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

So the Giants (who have a bottom third farm system) are able to get McCuthchen without giving up any of their top 3 prospects (Shaw, Beede, Ramos). Is McCutchen injured for the first half of the year or something? How did we not get in on this?