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Well shit. I misfired on that one. Damn.
Shoulda known better
Nah he's amate
Yeah. Seems nostalgia can bite you in the ass
Confirmed with Link: Wings-Avs Rivalry ESPN Special coming next month
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Well shit. I misfired on that one. Damn.
Shoulda known better
Yeah. Seems nostalgia can bite you in the ass
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I can't believe they didn't cover the 1999, 2000, and 2002 series at all. Very silly to end the documentary with Detroit's cup win over Washington in 1998, half a decade before the rivalry ended. 
I think so much of the documentary focused on Lemieux that they just casually ignored those years (Lemieux was still there in 1999 but gone after).
I think so much of the documentary focused on Lemieux that they just casually ignored those years (Lemieux was still there in 1999 but gone after).
IMHO it could've been a 2 part series.I can't believe they didn't cover the 1999, 2000, and 2002 series at all. Very silly to end the documentary with Detroit's cup win over Washington in 1998, half a decade before the rivalry ended.
I think so much of the documentary focused on Lemieux that they just casually ignored those years (Lemieux was still there in 1999 but gone after).
HeHateMeFrisbee
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The biggest thing to hit me from this was that I f***ing miss us being relevant during playoff time. I know we are told to be patient etc etc but I am so ready to watch a competitive team. I am tired of missing the f***ing playoffs and watching teams I hate compete for Stanley Cups.
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I can't believe they didn't cover the 1999, 2000, and 2002 series at all. Very silly to end the documentary with Detroit's cup win over Washington in 1998, half a decade before the rivalry ended.
I think so much of the documentary focused on Lemieux that they just casually ignored those years (Lemieux was still there in 1999 but gone after).
It definitely should've been a two-part series. I'm not surprised ESPN didn't go that direction though.
GoBoltz56
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How hammered was McCarty during his interviews? Wow. I thought maybe after years of punches to the head maybe that's just how he sounds now, but you can tell a major difference between when he's on stage talking with Lemieux and when he's being interviewed alone...he was lit.
HeHateMeFrisbee
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I think he's alcohol free currently. However, he promotes a weed company and has said he uses it frequently...
GoBoltz56
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Hmmmm...I guess that could be...but his mannerisms seemed more drunk than high.
I think trying to be dramatic for the cameras played a role too.
HeHateMeFrisbee
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I noticed what you are talking about, but also think it might be something of an act. He does a radio show in Detroit where he seems pretty lucid, in his way...
MBH
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Felt like a McCarty/Lemieux doc, not a rivalry doc.
Even the Russian 5 doc took a weird right turn into McCarty.
The documentary is available on YouTube. Search for the name and you'll find it. Don't know how long this will be available. Glad I found it, hard to have a chance to see it in Europe.
1.5 GB Download size, in case you want to store it. ;-)
1.5 GB Download size, in case you want to store it. ;-)
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Did you find the extended ESPN+ version, or was it the version that aired on ESPN?
EDIT: The one I just found and am downloading is 2:07.... I think that's the extended version? The version that aired on TV was 2 hours and included 10 or so commercial breaks, so I assume I'm getting the extended version
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thanks for the heads up found it wanted to watch the extended cut but was not about to shell out for ESPN+ (dont even have Netflix lol)
watch it while you can cause as someone who uploaded lots of old Wings games and stuff on YouTube it will most likely be pulled down fast lol
Yeah, me too. It was first reported as being 115MB, so I thought there was another version of it.
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Thank you guys. I'm currently watching, laughing and crying, laughing and crying. Enjoying.
These are so big memories for me, I started being NHL fan on that time -94 -95, don't remember clearly, Hated Roy already from -93 finals... wanted Gretzky and Kurri to win.
Then I loved Red Wings because the Russian/European style and all these disappointments -95 ja -96. And this Claude thing, both at -95 and -96...
Winning after these disappointments makes you really a die hard fan. And that's what I still am. Red Wings was that. My Finnish favourite won Championship at -03 after 2 losses in the -01 and -02 finals. And you thought that would be worst you ever deal with... no, again, at -13, -14, -15 losing at Finals, then winning at -16. Those are greatest stories. That season felt like it did last 4 years. Greatest feeling championships. When you are real good, but suffer first.
These are so big memories for me, I started being NHL fan on that time -94 -95, don't remember clearly, Hated Roy already from -93 finals... wanted Gretzky and Kurri to win.
Then I loved Red Wings because the Russian/European style and all these disappointments -95 ja -96. And this Claude thing, both at -95 and -96...
Winning after these disappointments makes you really a die hard fan. And that's what I still am. Red Wings was that. My Finnish favourite won Championship at -03 after 2 losses in the -01 and -02 finals. And you thought that would be worst you ever deal with... no, again, at -13, -14, -15 losing at Finals, then winning at -16. Those are greatest stories. That season felt like it did last 4 years. Greatest feeling championships. When you are real good, but suffer first.
The off ice stuff is what made this rivalry so unique and intense. That stuff mostly went away after 98 so i can see why they didn't really choose to focus on the later years when it was dying down.I can't believe they didn't cover the 1999, 2000, and 2002 series at all. Very silly to end the documentary with Detroit's cup win over Washington in 1998, half a decade before the rivalry ended.
I think so much of the documentary focused on Lemieux that they just casually ignored those years (Lemieux was still there in 1999 but gone after).
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It's really hard to gauge considering how weird his career was getting stuck long-term in crowded crease situations while the team was looking to make room for him, or hang onto him until they got the return they wanted. I chronicled this mess in a post in the HOH section: Why did the Red Wings trade Mike Vernon after the 97 Cup Run?
He really only had two season where he had a measure-able work load:
-97/98: Where he finally got the #2 job in Detroit and ended the season with pretty good numbers for an NHL back up goalie
-99/00: Platooning for a dumpster fire Lightning team who's front office seemed to forget that they were no longer working for a Turner Cup contender. He was pretty much the worst goalie in the league that year.
I always thought Hodson was both one of the luckiest and unluckiest NHL players at the same time.
His name appears on the Cup twice and he's got two rings, with one of the seasons being one where he started 4 games and didn't even have to sit on the bench for a playoff game. He also had a pretty good gig in his final season... Having little competition for Tampa's back up job after 2 years of retirement where he eventually got to earn an NHL paycheck to start a game once a month for half a season.
I feel like Hodson could also hold some kind of oddball NHL record. Something like "Least amount of starts for a goalie that spent the majority of at least 5 seasons on an NHL roster" or "most X week long periods without starting or playing an NHL game while on an NHL roster".
