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The guy hooked AA and AA's legs just buckled... yeah that was embellishmentAre you kidding me? Embellishment? I hate refs that call penalties by quota and not by the play of the game
The guy hooked AA and AA's legs just buckled... yeah that was embellishmentAre you kidding me? Embellishment? I hate refs that call penalties by quota and not by the play of the game
Lmao just star punching someone at the end of the game to stop playing.
That's what kills me. When I hear Holland go on the radio after the deadline, and prattle on about how young guys can't have any entitlement, and have to earn those roster spots by taking them from vets... Either he is deliberately avoiding the truth, or is supremely clueless.not just young but better. Complain about the old guys, but the old guys are better than Jensen and XO. Really, I think Ericsson and Kronwall are better than Dekeyser. We need better players.
is he worse than DD?My god can we please get rid of nick Jensen right now. I get it he can skate but I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen him pass a puck. Our d are 0 threat from the point when taking a shot it’s pathetic. The d-core needs so much work but Jensen needs to go cause I can’t watch him anymore
That's what kills me. When I hear Holland go on the radio after the deadline, and prattle on about how young guys can't have any entitlement, and have to earn those roster spots by taking them from vets... Either he is deliberately avoiding the truth, or is supremely clueless.
Nobody is asking for kids to get free passes they don't deserve. Fans want a better tier of kids, to force out this pile of mediocre players they call a roster.
Yes he’s a lot worse. Maybe not taking contract into account but the guy just isn’t an nhl defenseman.is he worse than DD?
I don't think Holland is avoiding the truth, I think he knows that XO, Jensen, etc. just aren't playing as well as they had hoped. You can't really expect him to go on the radio and say, "damn, these guys suck." Just look at the moves he makes, though. If he really believed in XO, Jensen, and Russo he wouldn't have signed Daley. That's what signing Daley really said to me: we don't think these kids are good enough. And they're right.
At the same time, are Hronek/Saarijarvi/Cholo ready right now? I'm more than willing to see any of them for some games here at the end of the season, but I would have never entertained the idea of them playing all season this season. Yeah, I sorta side with the argument that we still should have not signed Daley and just taken our lumps, but either way we have to put enough guys on the ice to put a full team out there.
What really hurts is that I still think this team is going to be locked into finishing in this 7-12 area for a few years because while guys like Nielsen, Helm, Gator, and Dekeyser aren't great...they're not horrible. And with guys like Larkin, Mantha, AA, etc. progressing and more, ideally better, kids being groomed in elsewhere in the lineup, I think really bottoming out is going to be hard. So hope we have some massive draft lottery luck.
Yes he’s a lot worse. Maybe not taking contract into account but the guy just isn’t an nhl defenseman.
I'm just saying that whatever level of hope he had, has been frustratingly unrealistic for quite some time.I don't think Holland is avoiding the truth, I think he knows that XO, Jensen, etc. just aren't playing as well as they had hoped. You can't really expect him to go on the radio and say, "damn, these guys suck." Just look at the moves he makes, though. If he really believed in XO, Jensen, and Russo he wouldn't have signed Daley. That's what signing Daley really said to me: we don't think these kids are good enough. And they're right.
At the same time, are Hronek/Saarijarvi/Cholo ready right now? I'm more than willing to see any of them for some games here at the end of the season, but I would have never entertained the idea of them playing all season this season. Yeah, I sorta side with the argument that we still should have not signed Daley and just taken our lumps, but either way we have to put enough guys on the ice to put a full team out there.
What really hurts is that I still think this team is going to be locked into finishing in this 7-12 area for a few years because while guys like Nielsen, Helm, Gator, and Dekeyser aren't great...they're not horrible. And with guys like Larkin, Mantha, AA, etc. progressing and more, ideally better, kids being groomed in elsewhere in the lineup, I think really bottoming out is going to be hard. So hope we have some massive draft lottery luck.
Get used to it. This is what many people here wanted. They wanted a bad team to lose as much as possible. Don't complain about having to watch a boring team. This will be the case for the next five years at least.
Losing does not have to equate boring. Many have said they have no problem losing with a younger core that has room to grow.
What's boring and disgusting is a 13 mil grind line that can do NOTHING but try and hang in games until a puck gets blasted in the other way like the Blues 2nd goal. Kronwall shouldn't even be playing while Daley and E are beyond past their prime. It doesn't matter if they're a hair better than Russo or Hronek at this point, because they're doing nothing but declining. At least with the prospects there is an upside.
The team is a charade and the only pulse of life is from guys on ELC's. The Wings seriously need to force out some of the overpaid, dead weight this summer.
I'm wondering if Athanasiou joins Holland's NTC club this summer. Is anybody on Detroit who isn't on an entry-level contract not in Holland's NTC club?
We have Danny and Justin until about 2022. Ericsson is in there too. I think everyone not on an entry-level.