Value of: William Nylander for an RHD

[ESH]

Hamilton for Nylander seems to be a common idea on here, but as a Flames fan I'd rather just keep Hamilton. Not to say that the value is far off, but a guy with Hamilton's skillset is a lot harder to find than a skilled winger.

 

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So, with his pathetic non showing come playoff time and contract demands in play, what could he fetch on the market?

Could a base of Hamilton for Nylander be a fair deal for both teams?

It would hurt to lose Nylander for the leafs but Hamilton would fix a ton of their needs.

Stop making theads please.
And don't base someone's play off of 3 games.

 

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Soft 60ish point winger with no defensive ability or compete. Not much value there

Ehlers for a 3rd?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Could try another 462 Kapanen+2nd+Carrick offers for every good defenceman in the league threads, I suppose.

Trading Nylander inherently is not dumb. Trading Nylander and not getting a legit #1, like the Oilers did with Hall, IS dumb. All depends on what the return is.

This is probably the closest thing here. I wouldn't shop him but if you hear a good right handed defenseman is available, you see what it takes. If the player is the right age, right contract etc then Nylander can be available.

 

[McFlyingV]

Could try another 462 Kapanen+2nd+Carrick offers for every good defenceman in the league threads, I suppose.

Trading Nylander inherently is not dumb. Trading Nylander and not getting a legit #1, like the Oilers did with Hall, IS dumb. All depends on what the return is.

Nylander will never return a #1 though without a significant add.

 

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Imagine @justafan22 was a GM?

"Hey my all-star defenseman just had a rough week, anyone want him? Bargain deals!"

"My young up and coming winger hasn't scored in a week, anyone wanna trade? He sucks!"


Like...talk about driving down value..

 

[Critical13]

I don't think Nylanders value has ever been lower than it is at this moment. Not to the time to discuss trading him.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Oh Leafs fans. Those 2 on 1 plays by the defenceman on each was just awful!!! Like really who the hell is in charge of your defence core? Fire that guy my gawd

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Can we like shut this **** down. **** these Leafs fans man.

Have you not learned anything from the Oilers?

Not to hire a Bruins cast off expecting him to competently manage a team?

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Nylander sucks. Like I've said before, he's a slightly better version of Sven Baertschi. Both passengers on their line, incapable of driving offence.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Nylander will never return a #1 though without a significant add.

I would agree. But Nylander++ for a real #1 makes a lot more sense to Toronto than halfway measures.

 

[GodEmperor]

Toronto has a systematic issue with team defense that is being heavily exposed by Boston, and adding one offensive defenseman like Hamilton won't change that.

They need to change their system and probably also make some personnel changes IMO. I don't think Morgan Rielly and Ron Hainsey is a Stanley Cup top pairing on a team that doesn't have Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, and 2 goalies putting up Conn Smythe performances at the same time.

We really don't anymore than most other top teams.

Andersen has a sv percentage of around 890 in the playoffs, sure you can blame the D, but if you watched the series, you'd realize we shredded the Bruins D (considered to be very good) easily as much as they have ours, the difference is goaltending.

Even tonight, at best the game should've been 2-1, he either needs to stop one of those 2 on 1s or the first floater. Take a look at the Knights, for all the talk of their great d and team, were it not for Fleury putting up something like 970, the series could have EASILY been 2-2.

Furthermore, if we had a coach that could do simple things like icing the best lineup/lines, this series could even be 3-1 in our favor.

Game 1 fell off the rails when we missed 3 pps where we had 7 goal Komarov on the ice on them for some Babcockian reason and game 2 fell off the rails when we had 7 goal Komarov on the 1st line for some Babcockian reason and he took a too many men penalty which put us down 2-0 despite the fact we were dominating the game.

The team's roster is very close and the score difference in the series is very far from the whole story (were completely on par with the Bruins in game 1 halfway through before the PPs and were dominating them in game 2 before the PK and Andersen no show).

 

[Magic Man]

Oh Leafs fans. Those 2 on 1 plays by the defenceman on each was just awful!!! Like really who the hell is in charge of your defence core? Fire that guy my gawd

I don't think it was the coaches that taught them that. Zaitsev and Polak are just pylons. I'd like to fire those guys right into the f***ing sun and watch them burn.

 

[mammothCacti]

Nylander sucks. Like I've said before, he's a slightly better version of Sven Baertschi. Both passengers on their line, incapable of driving offence.

Woah woah woah there, in his first 2 seasons he would be the leading scorer on the Canucks and hell even the leading scorer for the season before.

If Nylander is a passenger, the Canucks are a big honking freight train of passengers.

Don't like the Nylander sucks comment. At least he made it to the playoffs to show off that he sucks.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

I don't think it was the coaches that taught them that. Zaitsev and Polak are just pylons. I'd like to fire those guys right into the ****ing sun and watch them burn.

7 more years at 4.5m for that 3rd pairing defenceman

 

[mammothCacti]

I would agree. But Nylander++ for a real #1 makes a lot more sense to Toronto than halfway measures.

What would you suggest?

 

[Magic Man]

7 more years at 4.5m for that 3rd pairing defenceman

They need to tell the league he's allergic to his equipment, so we can get some of that LTIR cap space.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

William Nylander
For
Brett Pesce

Nylander takes 1st line C and plays with Aho

Pesce plays with Rielly on first Pairing

 

[PetterssonSimp]

They need to tell the league he's allergic to his equipment, so we can get some of that LTIR cap space.

Pfft if there’s a team who can Robidas island him without being second guessed, it’s clearly Toronto.

 

[Apathetic]

William Nylander
For
Brett Pesce

Nylander takes 1st line C and plays with Aho

Pesce plays with Rielly on first Pairing

Hasn't Carolina's owner said that the team needs to get tougher? Nylander wouldn't make a pre-teen cheerleading squad tougher.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Hasn't Carolina's owner said that the team needs to get tougher? Nylander wouldn't make a pre-teen cheerleading squad tougher.

He’d make them prettier. That’s for sure

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What would you suggest?

Not sure that deal exists.

Something around Nylander and Parayko?

 

[MagicalRazor]

Matt Dumba

Leafs probably have to add though

I'd love matt dumba on the leafs i'd Do nylander + depending on the plus

 

[Kurtz]

Nylander sucks. Like I've said before, he's a slightly better version of Sven Baertschi. Both passengers on their line, incapable of driving offence.

That's terribly wrong. You've likely been watching him for the past few games and have formed your hot take based on that alone.

Nylander can absolutely drive his own line, he's a terrific offensive catalyst already, at barely 21.

He's having a bad playoffs, but the Leafs won't be fooled into making a Hall or Seguin type of deal for him.

Doughty, however, would fit the bill. Leafs won't be adding a 1st or Lil' to him, that's a laughable suggestion for a guy who's got 1 year away from UFA, but Nylander+Zaitsev or Gardner may make some sense.

 

[Magic Man]

As disappointed as I am right now. Trading Nylander would be a big mistake. Truthfully, there probably isn't a better defensive team in the east than Boston. If this series was against Pitts, Washington or Tampa there would be more room for Willy to operate.