Will Kyle Connor be ready for the 2016-2017 NHL season? - Part II

[puck stoppa]

Connor's advisor? Any hints on his plans with the Jets?

Well, he told me that some guy who claims to know something about advanced stats from Vacouver wont stop calling their home and he keeps telling them that Kyle is ready for the NHL. I told him that the guy is not legit as he post on HF Boards Jets

 

[wpgallday1960]

The Hobey is supposed to be more than just a hockey trophy. they wnat to give it to someone who has high charactor, shines a positive light on college hockey blah blah blah...Seeing how Vessey came back for his SR year to graduate, its not a surprise

OK makes more sense now. Still a little disappointed for Kyle.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

The Hobey is supposed to be more than just a hockey trophy. they wnat to give it to someone who has high charactor, shines a positive light on college hockey blah blah blah...Seeing how Vessey came back for his SR year to graduate, its not a surprise

BS. They just lose credibilty by handing it out to the wrong player for the wrong reasons. Its their award. They can cheapen it all they like. Probably saved the Jets some money.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I will speculate that he will return to Michigan. Lots of unfinished business.

And the millions of dollars that will cost him?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Would you give up 1M$ to try for a Hobey Baker with a ****** team? Anyway I'm not sure I want old man Red trying to teach this kid how to play pro hockey.

It isn't only a $ million. It is one year out of his pro career that he can't get back. It will cost him approximately whatever he makes in his last year or his average year. His ELC years will be paid the same regardless of which year they start so it is one of his later, higher paid years he will lose.

There is also the risk of career altering injury. More immediate effect is simply waiting for the big money to start rolling in. Staying in school would be .... monumentally foolish.

 

[mouser]

Would you give up 1M$ to try for a Hobey Baker with a ****** team? Anyway I'm not sure I want old man Red trying to teach this kid how to play pro hockey.

It's one of those tricky equations figuring out how much a player is "giving up" by spending an extra season in college. If the player spends most of the season in the AHL then they're not going to earn anything near $1m for that season. If spending an extra year in college comes somewhere close to spending a season in the AHL in terms of player development then they're going to be more likely to be on the NHL roster the following season in either scenario.

The difference would be in when the player's ELC expires and they sign their next contract. I think we've seen examples of players on both sides of that equation--players that benefited from an ELC expiring a year earlier and players that benefited from the ELC expiring a year later.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I'm not convinced all athlete's are driven solely by $$$$. It's easy to say the decision is black and white but there are many shades In between. Many of these guys choose another year of college, like Vesey and Poolman

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'm not convinced all athlete's are driven solely by $$$$. It's easy to say the decision is black and white but there are many shades In between. Many of these guys choose another year of college, like Vesey and Poolman

I hope none is driven solely by $$$. But it is not a simple matter of delaying the big payday by a year. Pro athlete's careers are age limited. The age varies from player to player but any given player's career is likely to end at the same age regardless of when it starts. That is unprovable but likely.

As Mouser points out if it is going to be a development year either way it makes little difference. But for players who are ready for the NHL the difference is quite substantial.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I hope none is driven solely by $$$. But it is not a simple matter of delaying the big payday by a year. Pro athlete's careers are age limited. The age varies from player to player but any given player's career is likely to end at the same age regardless of when it starts. That is unprovable but likely.

As Mouser points out if it is going to be a development year either way it makes little difference. But for players who are ready for the NHL the difference is quite substantial.

Hey Mort I hear you and I understand perfectly what you are saying. You don't need to repeat it. If it was me I would sign yesterday.

Just because you and I would doesn't mean everyone would do it the same way. We have no way to know for sure what Connor is thinking. There have been a few NHL'ers and former NHL'ers tweeting lately telling guys they wished they had stayed in college longer.

I still think he's at Jets training camp next september BTW. I'm not suggesting anything else is probable, only that it's a possibility.

 

[10Ducky10]

He will be on the Jets' roster next year.

 

[Jets4Life]

He will be on the Jets' roster next year.

I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise. Connor would be at an entirely different level than all other players in the NCAA. He has nothing to prove, unless he wants to shatter every single existing college hockey record. A move to the pros for 2016-17 is only logical. He's ready for the big leagues.

 

[snipes]

Just want to post this here then I'll leave Jets fans.

Connor got ****ing robbed for the Hobey Baker. You guys got a steal at #17.

 

[garret9]

Well, he told me that some guy who claims to know something about advanced stats from Vacouver wont stop calling their home and he keeps telling them that Kyle is ready for the NHL. I told him that the guy is not legit as he post on HF Boards Jets

I only called twice... per hour...

 

[Runforthecup]

Just want to post this here then I'll leave Jets fans.

Connor got ****ing robbed for the Hobey Baker. You guys got a steal at #17.

Yes he was robbed. However from a Jets standpoint it can only make him work harder to prove himself. I think we have a good group of young players (#55 in particular) that will show good leadership in terms of work ethic, going forward.

 

[csk]

Yup, and I just talked to his family advisor, and I said they cannot play unless all three are signed. They informed me that it will happen very soon.

Why would they not be able to play?

 

[puck stoppa]

Why would they not be able to play?

My lame attempt at a joke, hope that he signs this weekend. But now I realize it may be a while.

 

[Whileee]

Now that the Hobey Baker ceremony is over, I would expect we'll know Connor's plans fairly soon.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Now that the Hobey Baker ceremony is over, I would expect we'll know Connor's plans fairly soon.

Why is that? We won't know until he signs or something gets leaked (which is usually only shortly before he's signed if at all) I suppose he could just announce that he will return to Michigan but that's not what I'm expecting him to do.

 

[csk]

My lame attempt at a joke, hope that he signs this weekend. But now I realize it may be a while.

Oh, I thought maybe you knew that USA hockey would be unwilling to insure them for injury or something

 

[Kismet]

As far as his own decision on whether to return or go pro, Connor said he and his family will be working on that over the next few days.

“Still undecided,†Connor said. “Sit down with my family, the next couple days here, and we’ll come to a decision.

“I think it’s just whether it’s right for me, best for my development…we’ll talk about everything. It’s a family decision.â€

http://mihockeynow.com/2016/04/kyle...hobey-baker-upcoming-decision-on-next-season/

 

[puck stoppa]

http://mihockeynow.com/2016/04/kyle...hobey-baker-upcoming-decision-on-next-season/

Sounds like we may know by Monday. I wonder whats best for his development nothing else to prove in NCAA, that comment tells me the next step is whats best and thats the NHL.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Sounds like we may know by Monday. I wonder whats best for his development nothing else to prove in NCAA, that comment tells me the next step is whats best and thats the NHL.

Development and proving ones self are not the same thing.

 

[irunthepeg]

What a robbery!...

 

[puck stoppa]

Development and proving ones self are not the same thing.

But hes got nothing left to prove or gain in MICH other than trying to win a national championship, his comment says whats best for his development, doesnt say anything about wanting to go back and win. Plus, He will best develop in the NHL where he belongs. People will say the NHL is not a developmental league, but hes ready, and his game will get better much like Ehlers game this year.

 

[Whileee]

http://mihockeynow.com/2016/04/kyle...hobey-baker-upcoming-decision-on-next-season/

I wouldn't be that surprised if he went back to Michigan for another year. He might be a bit reluctant about making the jump to the NHL at this stage.