Boltsfan2029
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Newsguyone said:And yet they want him to make less than Darren freakin' McCarty.
How do their NHL stats compare?
Newsguyone said:And yet they want him to make less than Darren freakin' McCarty.
kurt said:We live in a world where people have the opportunity to earn what the market dictates their services are worth. ?
FlyerFan said:You play where you're wanted. How can it be argued that the NHL wants Crosby or Ovechkin at 850k for 4 years in their league more than a competing league thats willing to pay 10m for 3 years?
missK said:It has been stated many times that the NHLPA threw the Rookies under the bus, not the NHL.
And I agree, if a player can make more money elsewhere, whether they are a rookie or not and they decide to not play in the NHL because of it, they have to live with that decision.
IMO no one is going to stop watching the NHL or stop going to games because Sid leaves for Europe (other than maybe Sid's parents).
Actually players of their status play where they want to play not where they are wanted. Here's a scenario:FlyerFan said:You play where you're wanted. How can it be argued that the NHL wants Crosby or Ovechkin at 850k for 4 years in their league more than a competing league thats willing to pay 10m for 3 years?
arnie said:I find it amusing that all the talk is about Crosby going to Europe, when he is about the least likely rookie to go. It would cost him a zillion dollars in ensorsement money and force him as teenager, to live overseas. It's one thing to go for a year. Another to plan 4 years there. Ain't going to happen. However, the threat of going might allow rookies to dictate where they will play in the NHL.
Europeans, like Malkin and Ovechkin, on the other hand, are the ones who will be far more likely to avoid the NHL. They don't get the big endorsement money. Look at Ovechkin, he is shown himself to be the next great scoring star, so where's the Gatorade deal for him? Further, after taxes, a 850K salary in the US or Canada is probably equivalent to $500K in Europe where taxes are avoidable (I've heard).
Montrealer said:I already explained this, so I feel no need to repeat myself.
Here's a hint - it's another post of mine in this thread.
Epsilon said:Crosby's "zillion dollars" in endorsement money is less than 1 million a year. He's getting a total of 2.5 million from Reebok spread over 5 years, and by all accounts his Gatorade deal is worth less than that.
Newsguyone said:Who cares if he's paid his dues.
Sidney Crosby, in his first season, will sell more hockey tickets for his employer than McCarty did his whole career.
We just had a year's lockout over money.
This is all about money.
Be grateful for those moments in the Olympics and playoffs when you just know that the players are playing for the pride of winning.
Otherwise, it's all about money. And Crosby will make a lot of it for his NHL team.
Epsilon said:By the way if I was Crosby, and that offer is in fact legit, I would tkae it for sure. With that much money you are pretty much set in case anything happens to harm or end your career. Then after scoring the easy cash, he comes back to the NHL. If Crosby took three years to develop in Europe and come back over at 21, he could be the baddest thing to hit the league since Teemu Selanne.
syc said:So if you could make 90K a year with another company would you switch jobs? YES. Welcome to reality enjoy your stay.
Whats so bad about getting as much as you can, don't we live in a capitilist society? Good for him, if the NHL won't show him the money then he should look elsewhere. 3 Years in Europe might even be good for him.
mackdogs said:Actually players of their status play where they want to play not where they are wanted. Here's a scenario:
Montreal wins the draft lottery and draft Sid first overall. Sid also gets an offer to play for 10mil over 3 years in Switzerland.
Where do you think he ends up?
FlyerFan said:My point was in the second sentence. The NHL needs to be serious about securing top young talent. Restricting what you pay these players to 850k over 4 years isn't serious, and allows competition that IS serious about securing the said young talent to provide alternatives.
FlyerFan said:There was no thread. Try again.
kurt said:I personally feel as though prospects like Ovechkin and Crosby are really getting the pooey end of the stick in this rumoured CBA framework. I suppose it's natural, as unions typically compromise entry-level positions to look after current members.
However, like most people on this board, I'm a hockey fan, and I love the NHL. The fact of the matter is, there's an enormous demand for a franchise (in any league) to own the rights to a larger-than-life prospect like Ovechkin or Crosby. If the NHL limits their ability to attract these young phenoms, they're going to end up losing out on future megastars.
We live in a world where people have the opportunity to earn what the market dictates their services are worth. I'm all for parity in the NHL, and I don't necessarily disagree with financial controls to maintain competitive balance. However, I do feel that it's dangerous to strictly limit the earning potential of a player like Crosby. Not because it's unfair; but because some other league is going to step up and make a better offer.
Any other thoughts about the consequences of these entry-level signing constraints?
There's going to be a CBA and Crosby is going to be drafted, that's what happened to it.Resolute said:Besides, I thought the Toronto Marlies were going to pay Crosby $3 million a year. What happened to that "rumor"?
Montrealer said:I still have grave doubt Croby or Ovechkin would snub the NHL, even if they can only make $850,000+ the first four years of their young careers.
labatt50 said:Everyone needs to pay their dues. I am not the biggest McCarty fan, but don't be so sure that Crosby will sell more tickets his first year than McCarty will his whole career. You are assuming that a)Crosby will be phenom that he is being built up to be and b) he will go to a team that has high fan support. McCarty might not sell a ton of tickets on the road, but he sure does in Detroit. He is definately a fan favorite.
Newsguyone said:This is not only about a player's right.
This about a team's ability to sign their draft picks.
Digger12 said:Exactly. Which is why the rookie salary cap was implemented in the first place.
If Crosby and/or his agent has a problem with that, they should go kick Alexandre Daigle's ass.