JetsHomer
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Trouba.
Hainsey is a better hockey player right now than Trouba. Replacing him with Trouba downgrades the team this, when we should be pushing for playoffs
Trouba.
Whoa, easy there. Hainsey's contract is pathetic. I like the guy, but let's get real, he's a 5th D-man at best. At $5,000,000 per? See ya!
Other than Hainsey, I would suggest the Jet's contracts are basically in-line with league standards.
Trouba.
Whoa, easy there. Hainsey's contract is pathetic. I like the guy, but let's get real, he's a 5th D-man at best. At $5,000,000 per? See ya!
Other than Hainsey, I would suggest the Jet's contracts are basically in-line with league standards.
You do realize the team still pays him when you do a buyout right? I really think a lot of people are missing that...or being willfully ignorant; can't tell which yet.
Him being overpaid doesn't mean you have to give him the money to not play on the team.
He's the reason we're not playing hockey bro, we have to buy him out to show him how we feel!
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Whoa, easy there. Hainjsey's contract is pathetic. I like the guy, but let's get real, he's a 5th D-man at best. At $5,000,000 per? See ya!
Other than Hainsey, I would suggest the Jet's contracts are basically in-line with league standards.
Trouba.
I think I might
Ron Hainsey for sure. He has the worst contract on the team and was signed based on a career year. He never followed it up.
The first post is factually inaccurate. As has been pointed out you got his salary and cap hit wrong. Secondly I don't think he's over paid any more than most 4th d-men.
I really feel like people are degrading Hainsey's ability due to his role in the NHLPA. He's a QUALITY 4 or 5 d-man.
Also if you think Trouba is a better player than Hainsey right now, you're crazy.
I'm not crazy, I'm a realist. Hainsey is not a $5m player. He's not a $3m player. In fact, I'm amazed he's still in the bigs. And yes, I think Trouba, currently, is a better player than Ron Hainsey. The OP asked which Jet's contracts should be bought out (if any) and I suggested Hainsey, a no-brainer to at the very least, open trade talks.
I'm not crazy, I'm a realist. Hainsey is not a $5m player. He's not a $3m player. In fact, I'm amazed he's still in the bigs. And yes, I think Trouba, currently, is a better player than Ron Hainsey. The OP asked which Jet's contracts should be bought out (if any) and I suggested Hainsey, a no-brainer to at the very least, open trade talks.
You are sadly mistaken.
1) Ron Hainsey's 2012-13 cap hit is 4.5 mil; his salary for 2012-13 is 3.0 mil
2) Ron Hainsey's 2013-14 cap hit is 0.0 mil; his salary for 2013-14 is 0.0 mil (the year for buyouts in question)
3) Ron Hainsey's not a 5th D-man at best; he's between a 4 or 5 on most teams (I'll prove this bellow if you want to read it); he's a 4 on the Jets' which is considered average-to-slightly-above-average for defense
4) Looking at capgeek, most teams spend between 3-5 for their #4 so he's right on par for the role
Do people realize that the buyouts are for AFTER this season?
The poll gives noone who has contracts NEXT year.
The only Jets with contracts next year are:
Kane - 5.25
Jokinen - 4.5
Ladd - 4.4
Slater - 1.6
Thorburn - .866,667
Byfuglien - 5.2
Enstrom - 5.75
Stuart - 1.7
Pavelec - 3.9
The poll is flawed. Noone gets bought out.
Even IF they could buy someone out this year like Hainsey as suggested earlier it would not and should not even be considered. The Jets should be in the business of winning hockey games. Hainsey is one of the best 6 options we have on D so he plays - it's as simple as that. Stop getting worked up over a guy making 4.5 million - he is a solid Dman. Atlanta singed him to a big contract - can you blame him for taking money offered to him? Does everyone forget how bad Flood, Jones, and Kulda were against actual NHL talent - not their sheltered 10 minutes that they were snuck on the ice for each game?
But:
There are about ~100 or so NHL regular defenseman who are worse than Hainsey... To think Trouba is better now is crazy when there are NHL/AHL tweeners better than Trouba is now.
I've watched most of Trouba's Michigan games and all his WJC but remember this is a DRASTIC different competition level.
I think it's great that you're Hainsey's player agent. I just thank god you're not the GM of the Winnipeg Jets.
Lol your insults do not change the facts
1) can't buyout someone who's not in contract
2) Hainsey was a #4 on most teams
3) Trouba is not ready for the NHL and also won't tryout as he has to drop out of NCAA and sign a contract just to go to tryouts
Trouba is playing against boys...it's a COMPLETE other level when you are playing against Men...Hainsey is a reliable #4 defender, a jack of all trades type that every team likes to have. Trouba is a raw kid that needs quite a bit more seasoning before even stepping onto a bottom pairing, nevermind playing tough minutes like Hainsey did last season. And this is coming from a guy who had Trouba as the #2 defender in the draft last year behind Murray and #7 in the draft last year and he has only improved by leaps and bounds since then.
Seriously WJC is perhaps the worst way to judge players...it's like the Canada U-20 versus 30th place NHL team debate that comes up...it's not even in the same galaxy, nevermind planet in terms of skill/physical readiness...
Trouba is playing against boys...it's a COMPLETE other level when you are playing against Men.
Trouba is playing against boys...it's a COMPLETE other level when you are playing against Men...Hainsey is a reliable #4 defender, a jack of all trades type that every team likes to have. Trouba is a raw kid that needs quite a bit more seasoning before even stepping onto a bottom pairing, nevermind playing tough minutes like Hainsey did last season. And this is coming from a guy who had Trouba as the #2 defender in the draft last year behind Murray and #7 in the draft last year and he has only improved by leaps and bounds since then.
Seriously WJC is perhaps the worst way to judge players...it's like the Canada U-20 versus 30th place NHL team debate that comes up...it's not even in the same galaxy, nevermind planet in terms of skill/physical readiness...