If we can get him for a 3rd or less, and he’ll sign a contract that’s moveable, I’d consider it. Though, I’d like a RW. He’s been a LW almost exclusively in the nhl, iirc.I'm not sure he's going to be qualified. And if he is, he won't garner much in a trade at full money.
Why pay? So he chooses to come to maybe the least attractive situation in the nhl and does so without also getting additional term.
No thank you. Great role model for the kids.My point is that I don’t care if they’re lazy or overpaid. I only care if they’re willing to take a 1yr deal, that they’ll score 20 goals, and that they don’t cost any assets to acquire.
Now that Chayka is in the fold, I think our purpose in drafting is far more solid. Chayka even said it himself upon getting hired as the AGM to Maloney - we want to use the draft to make up that difference for what we haven't been able to get UFA-wise. Getting things done internally and developing said talent that way is a key. Yes, we would take the hit on pure elite talent level, but there is nothing that says that a late 1st and a mid 2nd rounder can't be very good players whose combined value is greater than that of a single player.
I am a big "sum is greater than the parts" type of person...
It won't take all that to get Coyle from the Wild. Read their boards and look at Coyle's production. He's declining. His numbers still show a 40 pt player, but his much needed physicality for a player his size is gone. He plays so soft in the corners now, doesn't hustle. Hard pass on Coyle, he'd be a big disappointment. Think opposite of Tkachuk.Well, considering we would go from #5, and three late round picks (most of whom never sniff the league) to a player in the NHL who is capable of 40 points, plus two picks in the top 50 (picks who are far more likely to make it to the NHL than picks in the 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds), yes, it makes sense. Each draft is different.
If we knew that the next Keller was available at the pick, maybe we don't do that deal. But if that upside isn't clear, we may get one potentially very good player at #5 or three good players in Coyle and the additional picks. We have some development time to work with, so subtracting the 5 pick isn't great, but adding pieces that can make up for it can. Maybe this is the 2011 draft (Ryan Strome taken 5th OA), and the players that we could potentially grab in the 2nd are the likes of Kucherov, William Karlsson, Mayfield, Jenner, Gibson, Victor Rask, Saad, or Salomaki. Just because you are taken high doesn't guarantee success in the NHL and given our track record, maybe it is better off to throw a few good pieces on to the roster, as opposed to just one very good piece.
Edit: The last 8 forwards taken in the NHL draft at #5 OA from 2004 - 14 have averaged 56 points over an 82 game season combined. This includes a list of players like Wheeler, Vanek, and Kessel. So, yes, there may be a great player out there, but Coyle averaging 40-45 points per season, plus a late 1st round pick and a mid 2nd round pick would actually be pretty close in the end and it may end up being that both of those picks make the NHL, at which point I would tend to favor the more picks scenario. But again, very close and it is somewhat dependent on the upside available. Is Wahlstrom or Tkachuk likely to produce at a Blake Wheeler or Phil Kessel level, or are they closer to Ryan Strome or Nino Neiderreiter?
Snap! Didn’t know it was televised! Darn it!Did anyone watch the WC game today? I haven’t seen it, but I’m reading Hughes looked very good. He even out-muscled horvat, for what it’s worth
On his podcast, Bob McKenzie seems to think Carolina could move 2 OV, given the owner is pulling some strings and Dudley has a history of moving down from high picks.
It won't take all that to get Coyle from the Wild. Read their boards and look at Coyle's production. He's declining. His numbers still show a 40 pt player, but his much needed physicality for a player his size is gone. He plays so soft in the corners now, doesn't hustle. Hard pass on Coyle, he'd be a big disappointment. Think opposite of Tkachuk.
Every year we hear that the top 3-5 picks may be available for trade. When's the last time one of those actually moved? 2003?
True, but the Hurricanes are a total wildcard right now.
They want to get tough, right? Crouse and Domi for Svechnikov is totally fair.True, but the Hurricanes are a total wildcard right now.
A. Draft Hughes
B. Draft Wahlstrom
That's what I don't get about Carolina. They have an opportunity to draft a game changing forward.....which is exactly what they need. Why move the pick????Eh, either Svechnikov or Zadina could be exactly what that team needs. They have the blueline, they just need the forwards now.
I don't know why they would but sure would like us to be able to cash in somehow.That's what I don't get about Carolina. They have an opportunity to draft a game changing forward.....which is exactly what they need. Why move the pick????
That's what I don't get about Carolina. They have an opportunity to draft a game changing forward.....which is exactly what they need. Why move the pick????
It's Dudley. He has earned a reputation of moving his first round pick.That's what I don't get about Carolina. They have an opportunity to draft a game changing forward.....which is exactly what they need. Why move the pick????
He looked great throughout the tourney. Our boy Wahlstrom blew an excellent opportunity to tie in the final seconds, off a GREAT Hughes feed.Did anyone watch the WC game today? I haven’t seen it, but I’m reading Hughes looked very good. He even out-muscled horvat, for what it’s worth
He looked great throughout the tourney. Our boy Wahlstrom blew an excellent opportunity to tie in the final seconds, off a GREAT Hughes feed.
I understand and was under the impression he was asking about Jack - WC being World CHAMIONSIP?Jack Hughes was great throughout the U18 tournament. His older brother Quinn is currently playing in the men's world championship. Quinn is draft eligible and is in the mix for the Coyotes pick this year. Jack will go first overall to the lottery winner (us) next year.
That was Dudley. He traded a top 5 pick in 3 of 5 years.Every year we hear that the top 3-5 picks may be available for trade. When's the last time one of those actually moved? 2003?