i get the feeling kessel will have the last ****you toronto, no 1st rounder
Oh God, he's failing on another team.
**** us right?
i get the feeling kessel will have the last ****you toronto, no 1st rounder
If the Penguins bottom out in 2018, their second round pick could very well be 31st or pretty high in any case.
In scenario 3, the leafs also get Pittsburgh's 2nd in 2018.
huh? no we don't. case 3 is no 1st, we get get a 2nd(2017), but don't have to send a 2nd back like in the other 2 cases
Personally, I rank the three scenarios as: Pittsburgh makes playoffs this year >> Pittsburgh misses playoffs 2 years in a row > Pittsburgh misses this year and makes it next year
If Pittsburgh makes it this year they are most likely going to be eliminated early so I'd assume the pick is around 15-20. Wherever that pick is, the pick we are sending to them (their own 2nd) is going to be exactly 30 spots higher than that pick.
If they miss this year but make it next year, we get their pick (15-30) but have to give our own 2nd to them, which if we tank again next year could be between 30-45. The worst case scenario here would be Pittsburgh winning the cup (30th pick) and us coming dead last (31st pick) which would give us a 1 spot upgrade. Of course this is unlikely to happen but it would be the worst case.
The last scenario is if Pittsburgh misses the playoffs 2 years in a row. Then we get their 2017 2nd round pick and get to keep their 2016 2nd round pick. That would net us 2017 (30-60) and 2016 (30-45) which IMO is better than the 2nd scenario but worse than picking 15-20th.
Is it possible to make a trade to remove a condition? Like we trade Pitts a 3rd/4th to secure their 1st rounder this year regardless of whether or not they make the playoffs.