Line Combos: Where do we go from here?

[McDrai]

Sign Demers
Korpikoski for Wideman
Eberle + for Hamonic

Maroon/McDavid/Puljujarvi
Hall/RNH/Draisaitl
Pouliot/_____/Yakupov
Hendricks/Letestu/Kassian

Sekera/Hamonic
Klefbom/Demers
Davidson/Fayne
Wideman

Wideman, Nurse, and Reinhart waiting in the wings until the invitable blue line injuries happen

 

[HopefulCoach]

RNH + Maroon + 2nd in 2017 for an extended Shattenkirk
Sign Demers, Lucic, Stempniak
Trade Reinhart and picks to Florida for Trocheck
Ship out Yakupov for a pick/ other project. Time to move on
Ship out Fayne for pretty much anything and sign Redmond

Lucic (6)-McDavid (3.25)-Eberle (6) = 15.25
Hall (6)-Draisatl (3.25)-Puljujarvi (3.25) = 12.50
Pouliot (4)-Trocheck (3)-Stempniak (2) = 9
Pitlick (.725)/Hendricks (1.85)/Letestu (1.8)/Kassian (1.5) = 5.875

Sekera (5.5)-Shattenkirk (6.5) = 12
Klefbom (4.167)-Demers (5) = 9.167
Davidson (1.425)-Redmond (1.0)/Nurse (.863)= 3.288

Talbot (4.167)
Broissot (.750) = 4.917

Total of 71.997. 1 million under the cap

 

[Young Lions*]

A top 6 of
Lucic - McDavid - Puljujarvi
Hall - Drai - Eberle

Would be stellar. Move out Yakupov, RNH and Pouliot.

Or keep those three and the spend $6M+ you would have spent on Lucic to fill a hole on the blueline.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Or keep those three and the spend $6M+ you would have spent on Lucic to fill a hole on the blueline.

Except none of the free agents would fill that hole?

 

[Up the Irons]

You're riding a pogo stick. One day your on me ridiculing my posts for not being ecstatic about the possibility of a Subban trade the next I'm trying to console you.

Find a balance. Hold onto something man.

jk aside we have no choice, we're on the McDavid train, a lot worse places to be, just that compete isn't going to be at hand, it'll take time. The moment we selected McDavid we all knew the rebuild was restarted. Just the way it is. By the time we're ready maybe Klef, Nurse, Davidson, are looking like answers.

I'm a mess.

 

[Young Lions*]

Except none of the free agents would fill that hole?

And trading RNH, Pou and Yak does? I doubt it. Yak has no value and RNH and Pouliot's cap hits make them difficult to move. For instance, RNH would probably land you a package of cheap assets (say Severson+) but that doesn't help either.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

And trading RNH, Pou and Yak does? I doubt it. Yak has no value and RNH and Pouliot's cap hits make them difficult to move. For instance, RNH would probably land you a package of cheap assets (say Severson+) but that doesn't help either.

So what do you suggest. Keep the exact same forward core + Demers and Puljujarvi and hope this time they can get it done?

 

[Young Lions*]

So what do you suggest. Keep the exact same forward core + Demers and Puljujarvi and hope this time they can get it done?

Options being what they are, yes, that is better than selling low on forwards for returns that don't move the needle either while also adding a potential future boat anchor of a contract in Lucic.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Options being what they are, yes, that is better than selling low on forwards for returns that don't move the needle either while also adding a potential future boat anchor of a contract in Lucic.

So you are content with another bottom 5 finish because you are afraid of a little bit of risk?

I much rather sign Lucic than Demers

 

[Young Lions*]

So you are content with another bottom 5 finish because you are afraid of a little bit of risk?

I was just discussing trading Drai in another thread and was fully in favour of throwing the works at Montreal to get PK. Risk isn't the issue, it's making bets you know are unlikely to pan out. in otehr words: taking stupid risks.

I much rather sign Lucic than Demers

And how does that fix the blueline?

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

I was just discussing trading Drai in another thread and was fully in favour of throwing the works at Montreal to get PK. Risk isn't the issue, it's making bets you know are unlikely to pan out. in otehr words: taking stupid risks.



And how does that fix the blueline?

You were saying that Lucic might be a boat anchor of a contract. Demers has a much higher chance at that. Signing Lucic gives us a top 6 forward to soften the blow of moving out one of the 6 mill guys or Drai

 

[Young Lions*]

You were saying that Lucic might be a boat anchor of a contract. Demers has a much higher chance at that.

Ok: why? They're the exact same age and Demers's deal will be cheaper and shorter (if the Goligoski and Sekerea contracts are any indication).

. Signing Lucic gives us a top 6 forward to soften the blow of moving out one of the 6 mill guys or Drai

But what are you moving them for? You haven't said. Give me a realistic option.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Ok: why? They're the exact same age and Demers's deal will be cheaper and shorter (if the Goligoski and Sekerea contracts are any indication).



But what are you moving them for? You haven't said. Give me a realistic option.

Pouliot, 2017 2nd for Ellis, 2017 3rd

Nuge for Dumba, Coyle, 2nd

Yakupov for something

 

[OnTheBrink]

Our 25 and under forward depth has to be best in the league now…

C

McDavid
Draisaitl
Nugent-Hopkins
Yakimov

LW

Hall
Benson
Caggiula
Khaira
Slepyshev

RW

Puljujarvi
Eberle
Yakupov

Now for some ****ing Dman please Chia!!!!

 

[Young Lions*]

Pouliot, 2017 2nd for Ellis, 2017 3rd

Nuge for Dumba, Coyle, 2nd

Yakupov for something

Nashville has no reason to do the first trade and we get absolutely hosed on the second. That's fire your GM bad.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Nashville has no reason to do the first trade and we get absolutely hosed on the second. That's fire your GM bad.

Coyle is a 30-40 point right shot center/winger and Dumba is a bottom pairing or second pairing pp specialist. That's great value.

And Nashville does it for forward help and so they don't lose Ellis in expansion

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

Signing Hamihus and Demers would be very good option. Cost would be like 9mil a year.

3 years 4mil for Hamihus and 4 Years 5mil for Demers.


Hamihus-Klefbom
Sekera-Demers
Davidson-Fayne

is it a solution, no but we might have a shot at the playoffs with that roster.

 

[Young Lions*]

Coyle is a 30-40 point right shot center/winger and Dumba is a bottom pairing or second pairing pp specialist. That's great value

It's bad value because the point of making the trade in the first place is to fix the blueline and you didn't do that. If it were Spurgeon or Scandella, then maybe. Dumba is not good.

 

[Joey Moss]

Just seeing Puljujarvi in these line combos has me excited. We needed that big RW more than anything else IMO (from the draft at least). We now have a very balanced top 6 and it makes trading RNH, Hall, or Eberle much easier. Also sounds like Yakupov may just stay put if the offers are complete garbage. Chia says he didn't request a trade. With that said, right now..

Maroon - McDavid - Eberle
Hall - Draisaitl - Puljujarvi
Pouliot - Nuge - Yakupov
Hendricks - Letestu - Kassian

Good god..

Get that defenseman, maybe sign Lucic and we're looking good.

 

[Up the Irons]

Young Lions and JohnJones, you two are having a good discussion and both making good points.

On one hand, I agree with Mr Lions that there probably isn't a deal worth trading Nuge or Hall for.

On the other, I agree with JJ, that going into next season with last year's lineup, plus the new kid and Demers, is almost guaranteeing another bottom 5 finish.

in short, we are hooped.

 

[Joey Moss]

Young Lions and JohnJones, you two are having a good discussion and both making good points.

On one hand, I agree with Mr Lions that there probably isn't a deal worth trading Nuge or Hall for.

On the other, I agree with JJ, that going into next season with last year's lineup, plus the new kid and Demers, is almost guaranteeing another bottom 5 finish.

in short, we are hooped.

Not necessarily. Chia is being patient and hoping prices drop. I think he's made it pretty clear that he's going to get a defenseman, it's a matter of price. Unless you're suggesting we're hooped because we'll lose a trade. That is likely, but at least Pulju makes it easier to handle.

 

[Up the Irons]

Not necessarily. Chia is being patient and hoping prices drop. I think he's made it pretty clear that he's going to get a defenseman, it's a matter of price. Unless you're suggesting we're hooped because we'll lose a trade. That is likely, but at least Pulju makes it easier to handle.

no, just hooped in that we can't really acquire the dman that will really make a difference.

I mean, if you look at it, give this team a #1 dman (or even a quality #2), and a couple of midlevel acquisitions (which are very doable) to round the top 9, and this team could seriously do some damage.

And with a 4th OA pick, Hall, Nuge, Drai and Eberle as tradeable parts, we still can not get that player!!!!

 

[LTIR]

We now have 6 potential first line players.

Hall, Nuge, McDavid, Eberle, Puljujarvi and Draisaitl

Craziness

 

[La Bamba]

Can't believe we've actually rebuilt on top of the original rebuild.

First generation rebuild:
-Eberle
-Hall
-Nuge
-Yak

Second generation rebuild:
-Nurse
-Draisaitl
-McDavid
-Puljujarvi

Third generation rebuild? Oh god no.

 

[cbzblaze]

I like the Risto offer sheet idea if they sign stamkos.
Jones, Trouba, Barrie, and Lindholm are also also good options. If they price of the trade is more than a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd so the 7.3M offer sheet then do it otherwise try and trade for one and I would personally still offer sheet a guy.


W/ Risto offer sheet at 7M.
And RNH for Dumba+Coyle
Sign McGinn

Hall-Drai-Pulju
Pou-McD-Eberle
Maroon-Coyle-McGinn
Hendriks-Letestu-Kassian

Klef-Risto
Sekera-Dumba
Davidson-Nurse
xxx

RNH for Dumba + Coyle isn't going to happen. Coyle is at worst = RNH. I actually think Coyle is the better player right now.