When their careers are over, who will be the known as the best Tkachuk?

[TopShelfYzerman]

When their careers are over, who will be the best Tkachuk?

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[amnesiac]

Matthew's already had more points in a season than Keith ever did, but will he get 500+ goals/1000+P like his dad?

I dont think its out of the question if he plays with Barkov in the prime of career.

 

[KingAlfie11]

I picked Brady, as the Sens grow into a better team Brady will only get better and he's already pretty damn good.

 

[wetcoast]

I picked Brady, as the Sens grow into a better team Brady will only get better and he's already pretty damn good.

I agree with this but Matthew has had the ebtter career and is projecting that way as well.

neither guy needs to do very much in the playoffs to surpass their father who surprisdly didn't have a very good playoff resume.

 

[Voight]

I picked Brady, as the Sens grow into a better team Brady will only get better and he's already pretty damn good.

I personally dont see Brady ever producing at the level his brother has. Hes a good player and will be an effective/productive one, but his offensive peak is going to be lower.

 

[TopShelfYzerman]

Points in their first 7 seasons:

Keith........ has 441 in 458 games
Matthew has 416 in 454 games
Brady....... has 221 in 308 games (in 5 seasons)

 

[Juxta Position]

Keith. he had a dimension to his game the other two think they have, and desperately want to have, but don't...actually being tough.

Keith was one of the most feared all around players of his time. He was incredibly dirty, a great agitator, and if other players tried to make him pay for playing dirty, he'd kick the shit out of them, then come out of the box and score a hatty.

the guy was a beast, his boys can't even remotely compare to that. Brady's the closest I guess, but still a shadow of what his dad was.

Matthew is a disgrace.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Keith = Archie Manning
Matthew = Peyton Manning
Brady = Eli Manning

 

[bert]

Keith. he had a dimension to his game the other two think they have, and desperately want to have, but don't...actually being tough.

Keith was one of the most feared all around players of his time. He was incredibly dirty, a great agitator, and if other players tried to make him pay for playing dirty, he'd kick the shit out of them, then come out of the box and score a hatty.

the guy was a beast, his boys can't even remotely compare to that. Brady's the closest I guess, but still a shadow of what his dad was.

Matthew is a disgrace.

Brady plays exactly like that and is currently the best power forward in the NHL. Ive been ice level and watched him bully every player on the ice he was 19. Weird post. Did you watch the game on friday? He is one of the toughest players in the league.

As for the poll I didnt vote. Really hard to say at this point in the young careers for Matt and Brady. However from a character perspective Brady seems to have alot of his mother in him. Didnt chase the money/lifestyle like his Father and Brother did. Commited long term to a small canadian market as the team captain and face of the franchise.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

This was just done last month:

Who is the Best Tkachuk?

This isn't about who you like more, just for the record. Which tkachuk was the best player on the ice? Let's settle it now!

forums.hfboards.com

 

[TopShelfYzerman]

This was just done last month:

Who is the Best Tkachuk?

This isn't about who you like more, just for the record. Which tkachuk was the best player on the ice? Let's settle it now!

forums.hfboards.com

That poll is talking about 1 season peak. The poll results look completely different too.

 

[Juxta Position]

Brady plays exactly like that and is currently the best power forward in the NHL. Ive been ice level and watched him bully every player on the ice he was 19. Weird post. Did you watch the game on friday? He is one of the toughest players in the league.

As for the poll I didnt vote. Really hard to say at this point in the young careers for Matt and Brady. However from a character perspective Brady seems to have alot of his mother in him. Didnt chase the money/lifestyle like his Father and Brother did. Commited long term to a small canadian market as the team captain and face of the franchise.

did you ever watch Keith play? they are not comparable. when players think of other players they wouldn't want to mess with, Brady Tkachuk is not on that list. Keith was.

And yes I do watch Brady, and he plays hard and tough, but he's not just as likely to beat the piss out of you as he is to score 3 on you as his dad was.

Part of it is obviously it's a different era, and the game has changed, but in an era of tough guys, Keith was one of the toughest, and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy.

 

[bert]

did you ever watch Keith play? they are not comparable. when players think of other players they wouldn't want to mess with, Brady Tkachuk is not on that list. Keith was.

And yes I do watch Brady, and he plays hard and tough, but he's not just as likely to beat the piss out of you as he is to score 3 on you as his dad was.

Part of it is obviously it's a different era, and the game has changed, but in an era of tough guys, Keith was one of the toughest, and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy.

I watched Keith play plenty. The last sentence is 100 percent incorrect. Did you see Stromes face when he hit Giroux from behind? Did you watch the game on Friday? If you did you wouldn't keep repeating what's factually incorrect. He has beat up every single player he has fought this year.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It will depend on playoffs. If one of the brothers wins a cup and/or has a Conn Smythe-worthy run, while also topping 400 goals, they will be remembered as the best.

Tie would probably go to Brady because of Canadian bias.

I watched Keith play plenty. The last sentence is 100 percent incorrect. Did you see Stromes face when he hit Giroux from behind? Did you watch the game on Friday? If you did you wouldn't keep repeating what's factually incorrect. He has beat up every single player he has fought this year.

I think it was Sanderson, no?

 

[Golden_Jet]

did you ever watch Keith play? they are not comparable. when players think of other players they wouldn't want to mess with, Brady Tkachuk is not on that list. Keith was.

And yes I do watch Brady, and he plays hard and tough, but he's not just as likely to beat the piss out of you as he is to score 3 on you as his dad was.

Part of it is obviously it's a different era, and the game has changed, but in an era of tough guys, Keith was one of the toughest, and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy.

Keith also says a fight between Brady and Matthew would last 3-5 seconds tops, he said Brady would crush him, and it wouldn’t even be close he said.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Matthew and not even close, the comparison to the Mannings is accurate (although TBD where Arch ends up in all of that).

did you ever watch Keith play? they are not comparable. when players think of other players they wouldn't want to mess with, Brady Tkachuk is not on that list. Keith was.

And yes I do watch Brady, and he plays hard and tough, but he's not just as likely to beat the piss out of you as he is to score 3 on you as his dad was.

Part of it is obviously it's a different era, and the game has changed, but in an era of tough guys, Keith was one of the toughest, and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy.

found the guy who just wants to fellate over the 90s NHL

 

[Fig]

did you ever watch Keith play? they are not comparable. when players think of other players they wouldn't want to mess with, Brady Tkachuk is not on that list. Keith was.

And yes I do watch Brady, and he plays hard and tough, but he's not just as likely to beat the piss out of you as he is to score 3 on you as his dad was.

Part of it is obviously it's a different era, and the game has changed, but in an era of tough guys, Keith was one of the toughest, and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy.

IMO, I find it's actually bizarre that it seems like Matthew and Brady are two distinct halves of what Keith was. Combine the two together and it's like recreating Keith. Both differ slightly in their skillsets, but the skill sets they mastered seemed to be on par with the ceiling skillsets that Keith had.

Matthew has the higher end skill/stick handling and dirtiness/pest in him which was more the cerebral part of Keith's game. Brady is the bigger, more physical power forward type of presence that Keith was. Matthew is seemingly more likely to get into a brawl than Brady, but Brady is more likely to power forward hit to hurt type of player.

The answer to this poll depends on the definition of "best". IMO, the best Tkachuk is the one with the most hardware/cup wins. Matthew currently has the most points per season of all 3, but I don't know if you'd argue he'd have the best prime based purely on that alone. It's possible that Matthew and Keith could blow Brady away points/stats wise, but if Brady is the sole one out of the three to win the grail as a player, it'd be hard to disregard that.

I think I'd go with something like this prediction wise, at the end of their careers:

- Keith: Most complete player of the 3
- Matthew: Best stats/most points of the 3
- Brady: Most hardware of the 3

Interesting poll.

 

[Xspyrit]

I watched Keith play plenty. The last sentence is 100 percent incorrect. Did you see Stromes face when he hit Giroux from behind? Did you watch the game on Friday? If you did you wouldn't keep repeating what's factually incorrect. He has beat up every single player he has fought this year.

Not sure where that "Brady is not a tough guy" thing is coming from but I guess it's because he always go after pansies like Shea Weber

 

[Eegs]

Went with Brady. Probably the least likely of the three to be known as the best Tkachuk, but I really like how his game has progressed over the past couple seasons. He looks to be the full package.

 

[cneely]

Not sure where that "Brady is not a tough guy" thing is coming from but I guess it's because he always go after pansies like Shea Weber

I don't think anyone is saying that Brady isn't tough, but if you think he's comparable to Keith in that area, you are either underrating Keith or overrating Brady. At least at this point.

In his 2nd full year in the NHL, Keith at 21 (22) had 255 Pims to go along with his 81 points.

 

[ottawa]

Matthew > Keith >> Brady

 

[Xspyrit]

I don't think anyone is saying that Brady isn't tough, but if you think he's comparable to Keith in that area, you are either underrating Keith or overrating Brady. At least at this point.

In his 2nd full year in the NHL, Keith at 21 (22) had 255 Pims to go along with his 81 points.

I don't know how others operate but personally I don't talk about things I am not talking about

My post had nothing to do with Keith, it had everything to do with this statement :

"and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy"

 

[cneely]

I don't know how others operate but personally I don't talk about things I am not talking about

My post had nothing to do with Keith, it had everything to do with this statement :

"and that's not Brady. he plays a physical game, but he's not a tough guy"

Fair enough, looks like I missed that statement.

My point stands though. As tough as Brady is, Keith was much tougher.

 

[jbeck5]

Fair enough, looks like I missed that statement.

My point stands though. As tough as Brady is, Keith was much tougher.

But relatively speaking, Brady might be tougher, just because the game has changed so much.

Like Brady might rank higher in current NHL toughness compared to Keith in the 90s. When Keith played, every team had 2-4 guys who were there for almost nothing else other than to hit and fight. You had 6'6, 240 pound monsters on every team. Keith was a tough customer that fought a bunch...but did he go toe-to-toe with the Stu grimsons and Peter worrells of the time? I'd have to check his fight card as it's been a couple decades. Whereas with Brady, there isn't many guys he wouldn't fight in the league today.

 

[cneely]

But relatively speaking, Brady might be tougher, just because the game has changed so much.

Like Brady might rank higher in current NHL toughness compared to Keith in the 90s. When Keith played, every team had 2-4 guys who were there for almost nothing else other than to hit and fight. You had 6'6, 240 pound monsters on every team. Keith was a tough customer that fought a bunch...but did he go toe-to-toe with the Stu grimsons and Peter worrells of the time? I'd have to check his fight card as it's been a couple decades. Whereas with Brady, there isn't many guys he wouldn't fight in the league today.

I don't think Keith ever fought guys at that level, but handled himself well against the Darren McCarty, Warren Reichel level guys.

You're right, outside of a few stragglers like Reaves and Deslauriers, there aren't really any super tough customers anymore, but I don't think Brady would fair well vs Ryan Reaves.