Value of: Wayne Simmonds in a trade this summer

[The Madrigal]

What teams would have serious interest in trading for Wayne Simmonds? The asking price is a mid to late first round pick and another asset. Something like a decent third line winger OR decent prospect, OR a future 2nd or 3rd round pick.

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[CaliforniaBlues310]

Blais+2018 WPG 1st from STL.

Before someone looks and freaks out about his draft size. He’s a lot bigger now.

 

[Starat327]

Blais+2018 WPG 1st from STL.

Before someone looks and freaks out about his draft size. He’s a lot bigger now.

What do we need to add to get Thompson instead of Blais?

Edit Sorry. Thompson. Not Thomas.

 

[Tripod]

What do we need to add to get Thomas instead of Blais?

They will say Frost.

Actually, they will say Thomas is not available....which he shouldn't be. They are attempting to fix the C spot and hopefully Thomas is part of that solution.

 

[Starat327]

They will say Frost.

Actually, they will say Thomas is not available....which he shouldn't be. They are attempting to fix the C spot and hopefully Thomas is part of that solution.

Right. And that's warranted. I already edited. Got the names mixed up.

 

[The Madrigal]

Considering the lateness of the pick I think Winnipeg's first and Tage Thompson is pretty fair value for Simmonds.

 

[Tripod]

Simmonds for 1st + Thompson is a deal that a few St.L fans and myself have agreed upon is the last few months. Can't imagine anything has changed.

Seems like a fair deal for both.

 

[Colt55]

Considering the lateness of the pick I think Winnipeg's first and Tage Thompson is pretty fair value for Simmonds.

Nope don't need to get older slower players

 

[Starat327]

Simmonds for 1st + Thompson is a deal that a few St.L fans and myself have agreed upon is the last few months. Can't imagine anything has changed.

Seems like a fair deal for both.

Right. I know this one was mostly agreed upon at the deadline, just curious if maybe we need to add a 4th conditional to 3rd (re-sign) to push it over the top?

 

[The Madrigal]

Right. I know this one was mostly agreed upon at the deadline, just curious if maybe we need to add a 4th conditional to 3rd (re-sign) to push it over the top?

With the pick set to be in the 28-31 range at this point I don't see why the Flyers would have to add. Thompson is a pretty good prospect but they have a few forwards prospects who are better than him.

 

[Peacekeeper]

Simmonds will have a good bounce back year, unreal the injuries he was playing through

Would be interesting to see what Hextall would do with 3 first round picks

 

[WeWentBlues]

Interested. RH RW is a big need. With his age and upcoming UFA status though not sure if the equivalent of two 1sts makes sense from an asset management standpoint.

 

[Starat327]

With the pick set to be in the 28-31 range at this point I don't see why the Flyers would have to add. Thompson is a pretty good prospect but they have a few forwards prospects who are better than him.

True, but at the deadline this was mostly agreed. They've now lost an additional potential (at the time) run out of him. If adding a 4th pushes it over, I'd be okay with that. We have room for good prospects, so no 1st ot 2nd rounder should go anywhere, but 3rd and 4th for better prospects? Sure. Big player...probably more of a winger at this point, would slot well on the third line. Decent hands and could move up if Hakstol gets the urge to play Konecny with bags of bricks on his skates again.

 

[Peacekeeper]

Philly could also retain on Simmonds contract making his cap hit just under 2mil

 

[The Madrigal]

True, but at the deadline this was mostly agreed. They've now lost an additional potential (at the time) run out of him. If adding a 4th pushes it over, I'd be okay with that. We have room for good prospects, so no 1st ot 2nd rounder should go anywhere, but 3rd and 4th for better prospects? Sure. Big player...probably more of a winger at this point, would slot well on the third line. Decent hands and could move up if Hakstol gets the urge to play Konecny with bags of bricks on his skates again.

I wouldn't go any higher than a fourth in 2019and I honestly think they can do a little bit better. I would prefer something centered around a pick in the late teens/early 20's but if the trade off for taking a very late first is getting a pretty good prospect who might be NHL ready like Thompson I would certainly have interest.

 

[The Madrigal]

Philly could also retain on Simmonds contract making his cap hit just under 2mil

Very good point.

 

[Starat327]

I wouldn't go any higher than a fourth in 2019and I honestly think they can do a little bit better. I would prefer something centered around a pick in the late teens/early 20's but if the trade off for taking a very late first is getting a pretty good prospect who might be NHL ready like Thompson I would certainly have interest.

Right. If someone's offering a higher first. I definitely consider it. But I'm probably higher on Thompson than most. Love his skillset and size and feel like its be a good way to add some size to the line up. Wed also be trading him for - as a blues fan mentioned - two (albeit, late) first. I'd say that's good value for Simmonds with kne year left.

 

[WeWentBlues]

2018 WPG 1st
Tage Thompson

for
Wayne Simmomds
Matthew Strome
Conditional 3rd/4th

 

[edguy]

I'd give up PIT 22 with something else from Ottawa (I'm to attached to our prospects to pick a fair one.)

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I'm still offering Leafs 1st and Connor Brown. Gotta give to get and I think Simmonds would be a great addition worth losing a hard working decent producing top 9 player on a very decent contract and a late 1st (would be next years I guess, could end up being mid round if things go a bit south for the Leafs)

 

[The Madrigal]

2018 WPG 1st
Tage Thompson

for
Wayne Simmomds
Matthew Strome
Conditional 3rd/4th

That's an easy no.

 

[Deam78]

2018 WPG 1st
Tage Thompson

for
Wayne Simmomds
Matthew Strome
Conditional 3rd/4th

Matthew Strome or any other prospect does not belong in that deal.

Simmonds and conditional 3rd/4th for Thompson + late first is clearly enough.

 

[The Madrigal]

I'm still offering Leafs 1st and Connor Brown. Gotta give to get and I think Simmonds would be a great addition worth losing a hard working decent producing top 9 player on a very decent contract and a late 1st (would be next years I guess, could end up being mid round if things go a bit south for the Leafs)

As much as I would hate to see Simmonds remain in the east that is a very good deal and would I would personally take.

 

[The Madrigal]

Matthew Strome or any other prospect does not belong in that deal.

Simmonds and conditional 3rd/4th for Thompson + late first is clearly enough.

Agreed. Especially when Toronto is offering 25 and Connor Brown, and Ottawa is willing to do 22 and a prospect.

 

[The Madrigal]

I'd give up PIT 22 with something else from Ottawa (I'm to attached to our prospects to pick a fair one.)

What are you willing to offer to beatout 25 and Connor Brown from Toronto?