W. Nylander over 90p
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As a Habs fan, I always thought Nylander was the only one of the Leafs core who legit showed up in the playoffs. Rich that they wanted to trade him and hard balled him but not the softies who disappear.
Freaky Styley
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Great season from Willy, and props to him, he's a great player - but I don't think it's helpful categorizing these things in terms of pure production. A '90 -point player' isn't what it used to be so I wouldn't have faulted anyone who thought he didn't have that potential.
For instance, Willy was drafted in 2014. In the 3 years following, only 2 players got 90 points or higher. In 2017-18 scoring took a jump and 9 players hit the 90 point mark that season. and scoring's been trending upwards ever since. Last season 19 players hit the 90-point mark
It's better to talk in terms of league scoring. Willy sits 7 right now and will finish in the top 10. This is likely a career year for him or he'll have 1 or 2 more like that. So maybe ask if people ever thought he'd be a top 10 producer in his prime? That's hard to say for any draftee on in their draft year, but generally you're hoping a top 10 pick chosen for his offensive skillset has that ability. Has definitely been a big breakout year for him
For instance, Willy was drafted in 2014. In the 3 years following, only 2 players got 90 points or higher. In 2017-18 scoring took a jump and 9 players hit the 90 point mark that season. and scoring's been trending upwards ever since. Last season 19 players hit the 90-point mark
It's better to talk in terms of league scoring. Willy sits 7 right now and will finish in the top 10. This is likely a career year for him or he'll have 1 or 2 more like that. So maybe ask if people ever thought he'd be a top 10 producer in his prime? That's hard to say for any draftee on in their draft year, but generally you're hoping a top 10 pick chosen for his offensive skillset has that ability. Has definitely been a big breakout year for him
CanadienShark
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Answered "no".
At the draft I wanted the Canucks to draft him. I was more about ehlers but I recognized the talent. Having said this I thought he was more a 70-80 point complimentary piece.
He's having a great career.
At the draft I wanted the Canucks to draft him. I was more about ehlers but I recognized the talent. Having said this I thought he was more a 70-80 point complimentary piece.
He's having a great career.
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In 2014, when Nylander was drafted, 80 points would put you 7th in NHL scoring.
Today, Nylander is 7th in NHL scoring as well.
So your prediction was accurate, outside of the fact that scoring has gone up.
And the complementary piece part. He's clearly an offensive driver.
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eviohh26
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I saw him as a PPG player. But like other have said. He was always the one that looked the best in the playoffs outta the big 4
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I definitely underrated him. He's just continued to improve. It also helps that the league has continued to get faster and favor his skillset. But he's also put in a ton of work on getting stronger on pucks.
If I recall, I thought he'd be a ~60-70 point guy, but to be fair, that was back in 2014 when 60 points was more like 75-80 points. Regardless, he's far exceeded my expectations over the last couple years.
If I recall, I thought he'd be a ~60-70 point guy, but to be fair, that was back in 2014 when 60 points was more like 75-80 points. Regardless, he's far exceeded my expectations over the last couple years.
Signed his contract pretty early in the season so what’s stopping him from dropping to a 75 point pace since then?
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jetsforever
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Those stats are inflated. All time year adjusted stats show that William Nylander is 70-75 pt player, unless its a contract year.
Where is Nylander on there.....It's weird that someone who scores 80 points a year and is in the prime of his career only has 430 pts in 520 games. 80-85 points a year type players are a ppg player, since you are having trouble with the math.
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This is some of the dumbest reasoning Ive seen in a very long time on here. Kudos.
Ben White
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Nah I think his improvement is for real. The eye test screams 100+ points star player this season. Off course he could regress due to injury or lack of effort next season but he’s certainly looked better and better and should be an established star throughout his prime.
Obviously scoring was different when he was drafted, but even accounting for that I didn’t think he’d be a top 10 scorer type. I thought the past two years was more in line with what he’d become.
Felidae
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If anything in more surprised it took him until his 26 year old season to be a PPG player.
He had a really good 20 year old season with 61 points. Which was not so far off from Marner who had 69 points at the same age
After that though, Marner lapped him in production for years and it never seemed right. I mean, Marner was always the better player but the production gap shouldn't have been as big as it was imo.
He had a really good 20 year old season with 61 points. Which was not so far off from Marner who had 69 points at the same age
After that though, Marner lapped him in production for years and it never seemed right. I mean, Marner was always the better player but the production gap shouldn't have been as big as it was imo.
HFpapi
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People clowned on the Leafs for signing him for 6 million so don't wanna see a bunch of revisionist history fans of other teams patting themselves on the back. "Totally, always saw this coming."
Something about Canadian teams. Draisaitl contract was clowned (steal) Miller contract clowned (steal) Nylander contract clowned (steal) Suzuki contract clowned (looks like it will be a steal) Stutzle (steal), Huberdeau.... ok some don't work out.
Something about Canadian teams. Draisaitl contract was clowned (steal) Miller contract clowned (steal) Nylander contract clowned (steal) Suzuki contract clowned (looks like it will be a steal) Stutzle (steal), Huberdeau.... ok some don't work out.
I honestly never understood the complaints about that contract. Even as an ~ok player it was fine for $$ amount, it was hardly an overpay...and he's obviously more than just an ~ok player now, but the point is the $$ wasn't even that high.
As for thread premise - I voted yes. I didn't vote the last option (even though he'll almost for sure top 100+ this year and maybe 110), since I can't say I really expected him to be a 100+ point player (let alone 110), but I figured he'd be an above ppg ~80-90 point guy in his prime years.
We'll have to see if this season ends up being the new norm for him, or an unusual spike year. I could still see him coming down to earth next year and beyond in the ~80 to 100 point range, as opposed to over 100 often.
