False
Since Jan 19th
Gardiner: 21pts, +8 in 24 games.
Vatanen: 16pts, -2 in in 26 games
Gardiner, and it isnt close
Way to knitpick, Gardiner does make bonehead mistake from time to time but his ability to cover the passing lanes, his transitional game and his effectiveness at preventing controlled zone entries is what makes him an effective Dman in his own end. If Gardiner is terrible at his defensive assignments then what does that say about the rest of the Leafs' top 4 (Rielly, Zaitsev and Hainsey) considering Jake has the best GA/60 (by a wide margin), xGA/60, HDCA/60 (high danger shots against), SA/60 and HDCF% (high danger corsi %) among the Leafs' top 4 Dmen. If that was the case, then Andersen really deserves the Vezna for playing behind the worst defensive top 4 ever assembled am I right?
Dude watch the play again, Gardiner would have cleared the puck had the linesman not gotten in the way of his clearing attempt, yes Gardiner could have shown more hustle but it was an unfortunate play to begin with. Also GA/60 is not an advance stats, its simply goals against per 60 minutes (5 vs 5) and it shows us that the Leafs as a team allows significantly less goals against with Gardiner on ice compare to the other Leaf top 4 defenders. Really, using that Seguin goal as your whole argument for Jake not being a good Dman was pretty flawed to begin with.No no no, take every one of those advanced stats and stick them far up your ass my dude. It wasn’t Rielly or Zaitsev who watched Seguin skate around them to pick up his own rebound and score.
No no no, take every one of those advanced stats and stick them far up your ass my dude. It wasn’t Rielly or Zaitsev who watched Seguin skate around them to pick up his own rebound and score.
I think it was Gardiner over the last few seasons, but Vatanen with the Devils has been a top pairing guy and is logging some pretty tough minutes.
Be more of a typical butt hurt leafs fan because an hf poll didn’t go your way lol. If the devils are mediocre, the leafs aren’t much better than that. Also the answer to this poll is quite easily vats.Logging some pretty tough minutes on a mediocre team.
LOL dude can't defend.Gardiner, not close. he beats Vatanen at everything and their QoC is extremely similar
Weird how he beats Vatanen in gf% and xgf% if he can't defendLOL dude can't defend.
Weird how he beats Vatanen in gf% and xgf% if he can't defend
Vatanen, Gardiner not even in the same tier.
I'd rather go by "advanced stats" than literally nothingAdvanced stats....
Weird how he beats Vatanen in gf% and xgf% if he can't defend
It's just weird, it might be on of those stats that don't take in account the goaltender quality of play, like you know Andersen having a great season, and Cory and KK being shitty for a good part of the season, until lately where KK > Andersen.Weird how he beats Vatanen in gf% and xgf% if he can't defend
It must upset you that both are far better than anything on the oil dumpster fire of a blueline.Vatanen quite easily
So you might as well not watch the games ( actually, I doubt you watch the games) and just post stats with no context.I'd rather go by "advanced stats" than literally nothing