Vancouver 2010 Roster Projections (Top 7 Nations)

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Note: all games will be played on a North-American ice surface.

(age) in brackets by Feb 2010 for certain players.


Canada

Heatley - Crosby - Iginla
Nash - Thornton - Carter
M.Richards - Lecavalier - Morrow
Doan - Getzlaf - E.Staal

Pronger - Green
Weber - Bouwmeester
Keith - Niedermayer

Luongo - Brodeur - Fleury

Others: Gagne, Savard, St.Louis, Marleau, Spezza, Toews(21), Roy, Cammalleri, Ribeiro, Sakic(40), B.Richards, Smyth, Phaneuf, Boyle, Campbell, Burns, Regehr, Ward, Mason, Turco



USA

Parise - Stastny - Kane(21)
Kessel(22) - Gomez - Ryan(22)
Pominville - Connolly - Brown
Backes - Drury - Kesler

Rafalski(36) - Suter
E.Johnson(21) - Ballard
Corvo - Komisarek

Thomas - Miller - DiPietro

Others: Langenbrunner, Blake, Mueller(21), O'Sullivan, Pavelski, Gionta, Rolston, Stafford, Booth, Malone, Wheeler(23), Higgins, Whitney, Martin, Gilbert, J.Johnson(23), Niskanen, Liles, Conklin



Russia

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Semin
Kovalchuk - Malkin - Kovalev(37)
Frolov - S.Kozlov(37) - Zherdev
Morozov - Fedorov(40) - Radulov

A.Markov - Gonchar
Volchenkov - Zubov(39)
Grebeshkov - Tyutin

Nabokov - Bryzgalov - Khabibulin

Others: Yashin(36), V.Kozlov, Samsonov, Filatov(19), Afinogenov, Kulemin, Sushinski, Mozyakin, Atyushov, Kalinen, Zyuzin



Sweden

Zetterberg - Backstrom(22) - Alfredsson
D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Franzen
Naslund - Sundin(39) - L.Eriksson
Huselius - Berglund(21) - Holmstrom(37)

N.Kronwall - Lidstrom(39)
Ohlund - Johnsson
Enstrom - Edler(23)

Lundqvist - Ersberg - Tellqvist

Others: Forsberg(36)?, Pahlsson, Nylander(37), Samuelsson, Brunnstrom, Modin, Axelsson, Oduya, Tallinder, Havelid, Kenny Jonsson



Czech Republic

Havlat - Krejci - Jagr(38)
Hemsky - Hudler - Elias
Michalek - Plekanec - Hejduk
Sykora - Frolik(22) - Erat

T.Kaberle - Kubina
Spacek - Hamrlik
Zidlicky - Z.Michalek

Vokoun - Pavelec

Others: Prospal, Lang(39), Kotalik, Fleischmann, Hanzal(23), Voracek(20), Straka(37), Vrbata, Vyborny, Marek, Roszival, Kuba, Klesla, F.Kaberle



Finland

O.Jokinen - M.Koivu - Selanne
Hagman - S.Koivu - T.Ruutu
J.Jokinen - Filppula - Lehtinen
Leino - N.Kapenen - J.Ruutu

Timonen - Pitkanen
Salo - Lydman
Koistinen - Kukkonen

Backstrom - Kiprusoff - Lehtonen

Others: Miettinen, Bergenheim, Peltonen, S.Kapanen(36), Pesonen, Nokelainen, Lepisto, Vaananen, Nummelin, M.Lehtonen, Rinne, Toskala, Niittymaki



Slovakia

Hossa - Demitra - Gaborik
Zednik - Handzus - Satan
Nagy - Stumpel(37) - Svatos
Radivojevic - Kopecky - Kolnik

Visnovsky - Chara
Meszaros - Valabik
Sekera - Jurcina

Budaj - Halak

Others: Marcel Hossa, Ruzicka, Petrovicky, Sejna, Malec, Mihalik, Mezei, Baranka​


Other notables:

Sturm, Hecht, Goc, Schubert, Ehrhoff, Seidenberg, Kolzig (Germany)
Streit, Sbisa, Hiller, Gerber (Switzerland)
A.Kostitsyn, S.Kostitsyn, Grabovski, Salei (Belarus*)
Vanek, Nodl, Pock (Austria*)
Ponikarovsky, Fedotenko, Babchuk (Ukraine*)
Ozolinsh, Skrastins, Ivanans (Latvia)
Boedker, Nielsen, Hansen (Denmark*)
Tollefsen, Thoresen (Norway)
Antropov (Kazakhstan)
Kopitar (Slovenia*)
Zubrus (Lithuania*)
Huet (France)
Czerkawski (Poland)

* Nation did not qualify for 2006 winter olympics
 
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moose3322

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Pretty good projections, a few notes, being a Canuck fan and seeing them play alot:

-As IF you just put the Sedins on different lines! Explain yourself.
-I honestly can see Kesler making the US bottom 9, especially if he keeps up his play in Van. and continues to improve. He is great defensively, fast, putting up decent offensive numbers, and has been Vancouvers most consistent (and arguably best overall) forward. He is great at shutting down the Elite lines in the NHL and adding points as well.
- I can almost guarantee Edler will make Sweden's bottom pairing, if not top 4 by 2010, barring any injuries. Believe me if you want, but he is already nearing Ohlunds level of play, and getting better quickly. I wouldnt be shocked if he was better than Ohlund (skill-wise) by 2010, although Ohlund will still be a good veteran.
-I dont know if Naslund would make the second line on that team a few years from now. He is on fire currently, but may not be able to keep up a ppg pace, especially in 2/3 years. Maybe only if he is put on a line of Sedin-Sedin-Naslund, as this line is used currently and is developing great chemistry. Perfect chance to inject chemistry on an otherwise pieced together Olympic cast of separate All-stars.
 

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Pretty good projections, a few notes, being a Canuck fan and seeing them play alot:

-As IF you just put the Sedins on different lines! Explain yourself.
-I honestly can see Kesler making the US bottom 9, especially if he keeps up his play in Van. and continues to improve. He is great defensively, fast, putting up decent offensive numbers, and has been Vancouvers most consistent (and arguably best overall) forward. He is great at shutting down the Elite lines in the NHL and adding points as well.
- I can almost guarantee Edler will make Sweden's bottom pairing, if not top 4 by 2010, barring any injuries. Believe me if you want, but he is already nearing Ohlunds level of play, and getting better quickly. I wouldnt be shocked if he was better than Ohlund (skill-wise) by 2010, although Ohlund will still be a good veteran.
-I dont know if Naslund would make the second line on that team a few years from now. He is on fire currently, but may not be able to keep up a ppg pace, especially in 2/3 years. Maybe only if he is put on a line of Sedin-Sedin-Naslund, as this line is used currently and is developing great chemistry. Perfect chance to inject chemistry on an otherwise pieced together Olympic cast of separate All-stars.

- Sorry about the Sedins, but Zetts and Alffie are the top 2 wingers by far. I doubt Backstrom will be good enough to center Sweden's top line in 2 years, and Sundin at 39 wont exactly be at his peak. Im just going with the talent.
- Yeah Edler could very well make it, but he'll have to prove himself tremendously over the next 2 seasons. Ohlund, Tallinder, Johnsson, and Backman all have a lot more NHL experience, and Enstrom is proving to be a great dman in Atlanta already.
- I could only see Huselius taking Naslund's place on the second line unless some youngster explodes in the next year (a Bergfors or Franzen maybe), but I doubt it.
 

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Just like breaking up the Sedin's, it doesn't make much sense to split Spezza and Heatley. I always though that Gagne and Iginla would make the best linemates for Crosby.
 

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Russian roster will have at least 5 Superleague players. It's kind of funny how people on HF boards just list the best Russian in the NHL thinking that will be identical to the actual Russian team.
 

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I hope 2010 is when the U.S. brass finally cuts ties with the past.....A team I'd like to see (x23 man roster):

Goaltenders (x3):

Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jimmy Howard

Defensemen (x8):

Mike Komisarek-Brian Rafalski
Keith Ballard-Ryan Suter
Erik Johnson-Jack Johnson
Ryan Whitney-Paul Martin

Forwards (x12):

Kane-Gomez-Cole
Kessel-Parise-Gionta
Stastny-Cullen-Drury
Higgins-Legwand-Brown
 

therealdeal

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I hope 2010 is when the U.S. brass finally cuts ties with the past.....A team I'd like to see (x23 man roster):

Goaltenders (x3):

Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jimmy Howard

Defensemen (x8):

Mike Komisarek-Brian Rafalski
Keith Ballard-Ryan Suter
Erik Johnson-Jack Johnson
Ryan Whitney-Paul Martin

Forwards (x12):

Kane-Gomez-Cole
Kessel-Parise-Gionta
Stastny-Cullen-Drury
Higgins-Legwand-Brown

No Timmy Thomas in net? I'm big Timmy fan!

Also, I'd have Connolly on that 3rd line instead of maybe Cullen, thats just me though. Why 8 defenseman, is that injury precaution, I think 8 is way too many defensemen in these tourneys, less is better, guys gotta get their flow going, they need more ice-time not less. I'd also have Hainsey on there, he's starting to look a lot better these days.

Just my comments.

My Team Canada

Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Gagne - Brindamour - Heatley
Lecavelier - Sakic - St.Louis
Morrow - Doan - M. Richards
ex. Toews

Bouwmeester - Pronger
Phaneuf - Brewer
Weber - Beuchamin
ex.M. Staal

Luongo
Ward
Broudeur
 

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No Timmy Thomas in net? I'm big Timmy fan!

Also, I'd have Connolly on that 3rd line instead of maybe Cullen, thats just me though. Why 8 defenseman, is that injury precaution, I think 8 is way too many defensemen in these tourneys, less is better, guys gotta get their flow going, they need more ice-time not less. I'd also have Hainsey on there, he's starting to look a lot better these days.

Just my comments.

My Team Canada

Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Gagne - Brindamour - Heatley
Lecavelier - Sakic - St.Louis
Morrow - Doan - M. Richards
ex. Toews

Bouwmeester - Pronger
Phaneuf - Brewer
Weber - Beuchamin
ex.M. Staal

Luongo
Ward
Broudeur

something against Thornton?

Getzlaf is practically a lock too, imo.
 

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something against Thornton?

Getzlaf is practically a lock too, imo.

Never been a fan of Thornton, all show no go in my opinion. He's been surrounded by question marks for years, unless he steps up and shows he can be a go to guy he's not worth putting on the team. My team already has the #1 puck distributor in the world and plenty of centers, so he's not needed in the circles. I'll change my tune if he ever shows he's worth something, but hasn't shown anything to me yet.

Getzlaf is playing well yeah, I just don't know where you would slot him in. I don't want to take out any of the vets because they're there for a way more than just skill alone. He's not a winger, he could move to the wing of course though, I just don't know who you would take off. The most questionable player I put on there was Toews, and he's showed me that he knows how to win and does what it takes, and is a solid two-way player. I don't think you could replace any of the grinders with Getzlaf, I don't know if he knows how to play that game that the others do.

I realize I left off some incredible players that I shook my head and asked how I could possibly leave them off, but for this team in 2010 hard decisions have to made, you can't go by loyalty, or regular season success, you gotta make a team, and there isn't always room for everyone.
 

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Russian roster will have at least 5 Superleague players. It's kind of funny how people on HF boards just list the best Russian in the NHL thinking that will be identical to the actual Russian team.
Maybe that's because we don't know much about Superleague players? Personally, I couldn't name you a single player. Maybe you could enlighten us and put forth your predicted Russian team instead of :nopity:?
 

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My Team Canada

Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Gagne - Brindamour - Heatley
Lecavelier - Sakic - St.Louis
Morrow - Doan - M. Richards
ex. Toews

Bouwmeester - Pronger
Phaneuf - Brewer
Weber - Beuchamin
ex.M. Staal

Luongo
Ward
Broudeur
Are you kidding me? How old will he be in 2010?
 

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Are you kidding me? How old will he be in 2010?

He'll be 39, turning 40 in August.

Theres no doubt THornton, Spezza, Staal, or Getzlaf will be in there way ahead of Brindy. Even Briere given the way hes playing.

Regehr should be there as well. Top 3 dman locks are Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, and Regehr imo. Pronger will make it if hes healthy by then.

Boyle maybe although Im not sure about his defensive ability. Guys like Weber, Vlasic, Staal, and Burns all have a shot but will need to really prove themselves this year and next. Redden and Phillips are safer bets as the 5-6th dmen, but could very well be surpassed by the aforementioned.
 

therealdeal

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He'll be 39, turning 40 in August.

Theres no doubt THornton, Spezza, Staal, or Getzlaf will be in there way ahead of Brindy. Even Briere given the way hes playing.

Regehr should be there as well. Top 3 dman locks are Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, and Regehr imo. Pronger will make it if hes healthy by then.

Boyle maybe although Im not sure about his defensive ability. Guys like Weber, Vlasic, Staal, and Burns all have a shot but will need to really prove themselves this year and next. Redden and Phillips are safer bets as the 5-6th dmen, but could very well be surpassed by the aforementioned.

One team doesn't have enough ice time for 4 friggen playmakers, two on one team is more than enough, there isn't enough ice time for all those guys. Furthermore Thornton is a no-show in tough games, and until he can actually prove he can produce in big games like he does in the regular season he's not worth putting on this team since it already has Crosby.

Brindamour has won 600 more faceoffs since the lockout than any other player in the league, and is a great two-way player. I can tell you that in 3 years Rod The Bod will still be in fantastic shape, and I would much rather him be taking a defensive zone faceoff if we're up by one goal with a minute left, because both Thornton and Spezza aren't as good in the faceoff cirlce, nor can they defend like he can. There is more to the hockey game than fancy drop passes.

In my opinion you can pick either Crosby, or Briere, because they are similar players, neither guy has the ability to grind it out in a game with limited ice time, so I picked Crosby over Briere, who would you pick?

Regehr I hope regains his 03-04 stature, but I just haven't seen it yet, the coaching in Calgary has been a big problem for 3 years and its been showing in Regehrs game, further more he is not a puck mover, nor will he ever be. I chose Beauchamin instead because he's just as tough, as smart, and is a much better puck mover.

And the fact that you would put Redden on that team rather than any of the players I picked proved you haven't watched nearly enough of Wade Redden. He's been terrible every year in the playoffs, and Canada has never won a tournament with him on the ice. The only time he won a big tournament was the World Cup when he got injured early (thank god).

The only defenseman I question on my list is Marc Staal, I just couldn't think of a great veteran defender to put on there instead of him, but like I say, Wade Redden would be the worst possible choice, the guy is the cancer of winning.
 

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No Timmy Thomas in net? I'm big Timmy fan!

Also, I'd have Connolly on that 3rd line instead of maybe Cullen, thats just me though. Why 8 defenseman, is that injury precaution, I think 8 is way too many defensemen in these tourneys, less is better, guys gotta get their flow going, they need more ice-time not less. I'd also have Hainsey on there, he's starting to look a lot better these days.

Just my comments.

My Team Canada

Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Gagne - Brindamour - Heatley
Lecavelier - Sakic - St.Louis
Morrow - Doan - M. Richards
ex. Toews

Bouwmeester - Pronger
Phaneuf - Brewer
Weber - Beuchamin
ex.M. Staal

Luongo
Ward
Broudeur

I agree with the forwards except replace Brindamour with Thornton in the same spot.

I am surprised you think Brewer would make it, he has gone downhill as a player since his last appearance for Team Canada.
 

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There are about a million great centers to choose from. Some will have to play on the wing and others won't be able to make the cut.

Team Canada

Nash-Crosby-Iginla
Thornton-Lecavalier-St. Louis
Heatley-Spezza-Getzlaf
Morrow-Sakic-Gagne
Doan

- The forwards will be insane, just a matter of actually meshing together this time. If they do they will be unstoppable. I have Sakic in the token "Yzerman role" here.

Pronger-Boyle
Bouwmeester-Weber
Regehr-Phaneuf
Phillips

- The defense may look weaker than what Canada is used to. Not exactly a worry though.

Luongo
Brodeur
Turco

- Luongo will be the clear number one for the hometown fans.
 

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Russian roster will have at least 5 Superleague players. It's kind of funny how people on HF boards just list the best Russian in the NHL thinking that will be identical to the actual Russian team.

Do you think that will be wise since they are playing on the smaller ice? 2010 should be much more physical than any previous Olympics.
 
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Mr Kanadensisk

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Russian roster will have at least 5 Superleague players. It's kind of funny how people on HF boards just list the best Russian in the NHL thinking that will be identical to the actual Russian team.

Doesn't it also depend on how many Russian NHLers decline to represent their country?
 

Mr Kanadensisk

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One team doesn't have enough ice time for 4 friggen playmakers, two on one team is more than enough, there isn't enough ice time for all those guys.

In my mind this is the major challenge for who ever puts together Team Canada. You can't treat this like an all-star selection. I think it is wrong to select an entire team where every player is used to logging major minutes in the NHL. Those guys often don't do well to playing on the 3rd or 4th line. The 1st line players are the most talented, but there is so little time to adjust. I would put the 3rd and 4th lines together based on who the best 3rd and 4th line players are in the league. The downside is that a lot of the 1st line players who aren't selected will likely be a little pissed, and that could come around to bite us down the road.
 

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Russian roster will have at least 5 Superleague players. It's kind of funny how people on HF boards just list the best Russian in the NHL thinking that will be identical to the actual Russian team.

Well how many people do you think are as familiar with the Russian Superleague as a Russian would be. :D Maybe they know it wont be all NHLers but just list it as the team of NHLers as in the group of NHLers that do make it along with the Russian Superleague players will come from that group.
 

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On the Russian roster, I don't thik we'll se Kovalev, Yashin, Zubov and Zherdev.

I think that kovalev will defintly be there as the veteran presance,. cause other than him the russian team will be looking pretty young. Also i think zherdev has a chance of making it, as it seems hes got his attidtude problems under control and is playing much better this season. Ur probably right bout zubov and yash cause theyre 2 old, although maybe if one of our centres gets injured than yash has a chance
 

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I think that kovalev will defintly be there as the veteran presance,. cause other than him the russian team will be looking pretty young.
His services were declined despite his desire to play in Moscow not too long ago, what makes you think that he will suddenly become sought after in three more years? I am fairly certain that the national team will not be too interested in a 37 year old Kovalev.
 

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His services were declined despite his desire to play in Moscow not too long ago, what makes you think that he will suddenly become sought after in three more years? I am fairly certain that the national team will not be too interested in a 37 year old Kovalev.

I think the main reason they declined his services for this wc were his injuries ( elbows, vertigo, ect). This was probably the main factor in his not getting selected as he was just not playing up to par, russia saw this and i think thats y he didnt go. The way he's lightin it up this season, combined with his obvious leadership abilities (captain for 06 olympic team) will probably make russia rethink their decision. In regards to age i dont think it will a factor (barring career ending injury) as long as he's used in a limited role at even strength with PP time (kovy dominates on the pp is one of the main reason montreal pp is top ranked the past 2 seasons)
 

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