Van' Riemsdyk not available. Kadri's asking price is 'extremely high'

WTFMAN99

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Every one is available for the right price, and what is the right price for Kadri (a late 1st?)

I'd say so. We view Kadri as a 2C yes?

Ribiero fetched Eakins and a 2nd not so long ago.
 

MJ65

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I'm sorry but no matter how good Bozak is playing, he needs to go. I thought this was a ****ing re-build now all of a sudden all these guys are part of the solution? Bozak's value has never been higher, just move him and keep adding assets.

I would move him for the right price and I believe this is the time to move him, while his value is high
 

sxvnert

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I'm sorry but no matter how good Bozak is playing, he needs to go. I thought this was a ****ing re-build now all of a sudden all these guys are part of the solution? Bozak's value has never been higher, just move him and keep adding assets.

Code for "we're not that desperate to give them away" and "we're fully prepared to keep them if our prices aren't met".
 

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First time we've really heard anything from Lou Lam with regards to the upcoming trade deadline. I like the cone of silence around management. Not surprising that they put a high price tag on guys like Kadri, and Bozak. Makes sense that JVR is not available - since he's injured and all. I wouldn't expect otherwise coming from Lou.
 

MJ65

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I'd say so. We view Kadri as a 2C yes?

Ribiero fetched Eakins and a 2nd not so long ago.

Even for a 2nd liner it has to be more then a late 1st (that's how I feel), keep in mind Kadri is much younger then Ribiero (he is close to 35)
 

WTFMAN99

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Code for "we're not that desperate to give them away".

Bozak's stats and price tag should honestly have him in that 1st round pick category, maybe you take back money to help a team (because everyone is tight against the cap) but the 1st round pick value is pretty fair now. Producing minus Kessel.
 

MJ65

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First time we've really heard anything from Lou Lam with regards to the upcoming trade deadline. I like the cone of silence around management. Not surprising that they put a high price tag on guys like Kadri, and Bozak. Makes sense that JVR is not available - since he's injured and all. I wouldn't expect otherwise coming from Lou.

What would you take for Kadri?
 

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Yup. I think it has to be a good return to trade him. Not an average return

Needs to be a 1st and a pretty good young prospect coming our way. And maybeeee another late pick if you can grab one.. But I'd be happy 1st + good prospect
 

WTFMAN99

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Even for a 2nd liner it has to be more then a late 1st (that's how I feel), keep in mind Kadri is much younger then Ribiero (he is close to 35)

Ribiero had been producing pretty steady, had a 90 point pace season to his name. Kadri for all we like him hasn't cracked 50 points yet.
 

MJ65

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Bozak's stats and price tag should honestly have him in that 1st round pick category, maybe you take back money to help a team (because everyone is tight against the cap) but the 1st round pick value is pretty fair now. Producing minus Kessel.

I agree - I believe the best season of his career and has proven that he can create offence without Kessel
 

OvenMittz*

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First time we've really heard anything from Lou Lam with regards to the upcoming trade deadline. I like the cone of silence around management. Not surprising that they put a high price tag on guys like Kadri, and Bozak. Makes sense that JVR is not available - since he's injured and all. I wouldn't expect otherwise coming from Lou.

Would we be able to trade off JVR in the summer for the same value he would have now?

When does his limited NTC kick in?
 

mikebel111*

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Needs to be a 1st and a pretty good young prospect coming our way. And maybeeee another late pick if you can grab one.. But I'd be happy 1st + good prospect

Agreed.

I mean whats the point of say a 30th pick for Kadri

If its like IDK 23rd(or somewhere around) plus a B level prospect than sign me up.
 

MJ65

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Ribiero had been producing pretty steady, had a 90 point pace season to his name. Kadri for all we like him hasn't cracked 50 points yet.

I am just looking at the upside, only a late 1st (I won't), is Ribiero a better player now or going forward (I don't think so)
 

TootooTrain

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Ribiero had been producing pretty steady, had a 90 point pace season to his name. Kadri for all we like him hasn't cracked 50 points yet.

Ribeiro might be steady as far as points, but that's all he does. He's one of the worst in the league in terms of faceoff%. He doesn't do much of anything away from the puck. Doesn't shoot. And he gets himself into stupid penalties. I know who the better player value wise is.

Leafs should hang onto Kadri and build around him honestly.
 
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Good saying JVR is unavailable
Drive up the price
Then trade him
I expect 1st + Nice Prospect
 

MJ65

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Would we be able to trade off JVR in the summer for the same value he would have now?

When does his limited NTC kick in?

Why would you trade JVR? just for the sake of trading

You need some experience up front when your prospects are coming up
 

sxvnert

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Bozak's stats and price tag should honestly have him in that 1st round pick category, maybe you take back money to help a team (because everyone is tight against the cap) but the 1st round pick value is pretty fair now. Producing minus Kessel.

or two 2nds or 2nd + prospect minimum.
 

mikebel111*

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Ribeiro might be steady as far as points, but that's all he does. He's one of the worst in the league in terms of faceoff%. He doesn't do much of anything away from the puck. Doesn't shoot. And he gets himself into stupid penalties. I know who the better player value wise is.

Leafs should hang onto Kadri and build around him honestly.


If by build around around him, you mean as a support piece than yes I agree
 

WTFMAN99

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I am just looking at the upside, only a late 1st (I won't), is Ribiero a better player now or going forward (I don't think so)

Ribeiro might be steady as far as points, but that's all he does. He's one of the worst in the league in terms of faceoff%. He doesn't do much of anything away from the puck. Doesn't shoot. And he gets himself into stupid penalties. I know who the better player value wise is.

Leafs should hang onto Kadri and build around him honestly.

1st for Bozak - sure

1st for Kadri - not so sure, I also question the upside in such a deal, I'd rather get a defenseman, or even add and get a defenseman.

That could be a July 2nd-3rd kinda deal though, may want to see about Stamkos.
 

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