Confirmed with Link: [VAN/MTL] Canucks trade F Dale Weise for D Raphael Diaz

[Bgav]

Why the hell is he wearing 24? Ugly number

 

[member 202355]

Now let's trade Burrows, Edler and Hansen and acquire a top 6 winger.

 

[cc]

Now Edler + Hansen for Voracek + picks/prospects.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Voracek - Kesler - Kassian
Higgins - Richardson - Dalpe
Booth - Lain - Sestito
Archibald

Hamhuis - Tanev
Garrison - Diaz
Stanton - Bieksa
Weber/Corrado/Alberts

Lu
Lack

I think booth gets waived if they end up acquiring voracek.

Sestito lain archibald on the 4rth line. Tough line but you can forget about them scoring or being capable defensively

 

[Barney Gumble]

We did well to get Diaz for Weise. Didn't we get him originally for a 4th?

I could be wrong but I think we got him for free (waivers).

 

[huntison]

I think booth gets waived if they end up acquiring voracek.

Sestito lain archibald on the 4rth line. Tough line but you can forget about them scoring or being capable defensively

If we get Voracek I will drive booth to Utica

 

[Addison Rae]

I could be wrong but I think we got him for free (waivers).

Correct.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I could be wrong but I think we got him for free (waivers).

You are correct, sir.

 

[vanuck]

Hard not to like this trade. Weise is fine as a fourth liner, but he's basically a replacement level player who thanks to some fortunate luck (slightly inflated on-ice SH% and points on 92% of goals he's been on the ice for) has put up some nice point totals this season. He's been better than some of the trash the Canucks have played on their fourth line in recent seasons, but the Canucks have a few guys like him now. There was some hope that he'd improve because he was young when the Canucks got him, but his window is probably closing in that regard.

Diaz is at worst a solid bottom pairing defender, and there's a decent chance he's better than that but just lost in the cluster**** that is the Canadiens right now. He gives the Canucks options in terms of moving around parts on defence. Gives them an edge to sign him, if they want, too.

Who in your opinion would be some of those guys? Just curious.

 

[thepuckmonster]

Diaz has one less point than Weise?

I take.

 

[TheWanderer]

lol saw this on CDC. We should call him "Hey Diaz!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5zWGJoOAm4

 

[Natey]

To the people asking why he's wearing #24... I don't think he was ever a huge fan of 61. His actual # is 16, so he did the classic flip.

 

[TheWanderer]

gah, i dunno how to post a video...

 

[Natey]

Diaz has one less point than Weise?

I take.

He'd have more if he got decent minutes.

He played the last half of the season with Bouillon and Murray. And he played second PP with Bouillon.

Our coach is intelligent.

 

[Natey]

I posted here a lot with my frustations, but I'll give a better scouting report on Diaz now.

Positive

• Great positionally
• Very active stick
• Smart
• Good first pass (despite Eller's injury)
• Good PP passer (great with a decent shooter)
• Good penalty killer
• Great shot blocker
• Capable of playing 20+ quality minutes per game.
• Fantastic bottom pairing defenseman, solid Top-4 guy.
• Good skater
  

Negative

• Poor shot (not accurate)
• Not physical
• Gets pushed around easily

 

[Ziostilon]

Was thinking who had 16. Then remembered that it's the great Trevor Linden who has it

 

[Royal Canuck]

If Joe Sakic and Adam Oates had a child, it would be Diaz. ^

 

[Bleach Clean]

I posted here a lot with my frustations, but I'll give a better scouting report on Diaz now.

Positive

• Great positionally
• Very active stick
• Smart
• Good first pass (despite Eller's injury)
• Good PP passer (great with a decent shooter)
• Good penalty killer
• Great shot blocker
• Capable of playing 20+ quality minutes per game.
• Fantastic bottom pairing defenseman, solid Top-4 guy.
• Good skater
  

Negative

• Poor shot (not accurate)
• Not physical
• Gets pushed around easily

Thanks for the report. A lot of positives. I like that while he may not have a good shot, he's a good PP passer. Could work here.

I find it interesting that although he gets pushed around easily, that he is still good defensively overall.

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

One thing that will scary is the fact Luongo is a poor puck handler and Diaz is scared off his own shadow when he goes back to pick up the puck.

He doesn't handle a forecheck well at all

 

[Natey]

Thanks for the report. A lot of positives. I like that while he may not have a good shot, he's a good PP passer. Could work here.

I find it interesting that although he gets pushed around easily, that he is still good defensively overall.

His positioning and active stick are what helps him defensively. By pushed around easily, I mean in front of the net. Good thing with Diaz is that he usually doesn't get caught in that position.

Teams scored less goals per 60 minutes with Diaz on the ice than other other defenseman on our team (he was second to Gorges when he got scratched, but Gorges numbers have been inflated in the past two weeks because we've been killed). They acutally began scoring more when he started facing weaker competition because he was paired with Bouillon and Murray who are both barely NHL defenseman (think worse than Alberts).

He's good man, trust me. Don't judge him on the first few games (hasn't played for two weeks), but he'll be good. He's going to Sochi for the Swiss too.

 

[Blue Suede Shoes]

I think I see what's going on. Our bottom 4 could look like this

Garrison Tanev
Stanton Diaz

Gillis hates the draft so much he's gradually creating a team comprised of nothing but undrafted players. Starting with the defence.

 

[R0bert0 Lu0ng0]

Someone else wore 24 didn't they? I'm almost sure of it. A swedish guy I think.

edit* It was Jonas Anderson who wore it for 4 NHL games with the Canucks in 2011.

****, completely forgot about that guy. Handful of games for the Canucks and then left the team mid-season.

It's a wonder someone hasn't registered on this board with his name for a handle. Give it a couple of years I guess...

 

[TheWanderer]

I posted here a lot with my frustations, but I'll give a better scouting report on Diaz now.

Positive

• Great positionally
• Very active stick
• Smart
• Good first pass (despite Eller's injury)
• Good PP passer (great with a decent shooter)
• Good penalty killer
• Great shot blocker
• Capable of playing 20+ quality minutes per game.
• Fantastic bottom pairing defenseman, solid Top-4 guy.
• Good skater
  

Negative

• Poor shot (not accurate)
• Not physical
• Gets pushed around easily

Sounds like a potential partner for Jason Garrison to me.

 

[TheWanderer]

I think I see what's going on. Our bottom 4 could look like this

Garrison Tanev
Stanton Diaz

Gillis hates the draft so much he's gradually creating a team comprised of nothing but undrafted players. Starting with the defence.

Hahaha that's actually pretty funny.

Goaltenders, too (Lack, Eriksson)

....and forwards... (Burrows, Fox... Archibald too, no?)

 

[David71]

****, completely forgot about that guy. Handful of games for the Canucks and then left the team mid-season.

It's a wonder someone hasn't registered on this board with his name for a handle. Give it a couple of years I guess...

who the heck is jonas anddersson? and where did he come from

 

[uiCk]

Most fans will dismiss stat based analysis (lack of understanding mostly) especially when it is against the team they follow, so probably will enjoy this more then habs fans

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2...of-raphael-diaz-why-trading-him-was-a-mistake (sorry if it was already posted, though i'm sure that's ok )