GWT: UCL R16 Second Legs (current events talk in First Leg thread)

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I don't agree.

I think he's a pretty good footballer. He is not worth what they paid. But he's better than he has shown. I think the parade of defenders next to him, the mediocrity in front of him providing cover and meh management, and it's where it is. He's trying to do too much. Klopp could fix him.
Klopp would not be able to use him with Liverpool’s high line/offsides trap.
 

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I don't agree.

I think he's a pretty good footballer. He is not worth what they paid. But he's better than he has shown. I think the parade of defenders next to him, the mediocrity in front of him providing cover and meh management, and it's where it is. He's trying to do too much. Klopp could fix him.
There are much worse defenders that do solid work when they're insulated correctly. Hell, Craig Dawson got run out of Watford and has creditably done the job at West Ham. The expectation of how West Ham and United plays is obviously different, but Dawson is also expected to play within himself whereas I think Maguire is constantly trying to do too much to live up to the price tag.
 

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I don't agree.

I think he's a pretty good footballer. He is not worth what they paid. But he's better than he has shown. I think the parade of defenders next to him, the mediocrity in front of him providing cover and meh management, and it's where it is. He's trying to do too much. Klopp could fix him.

Being a pretty good footballer doesn't mean that England's Süle knockoff is good enough for the level that's expected of him for club or country.
 

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Unsurprisingly, a very defensive lineup from Tuchel
 

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I don't agree.

I think he's a pretty good footballer. He is not worth what they paid. But he's better than he has shown. I think the parade of defenders next to him, the mediocrity in front of him providing cover and meh management, and it's where it is. He's trying to do too much. Klopp could fix him.
I don’t think it’s a surprise he looked his best(still not 80mil worth) when Ole was just bunkering down and countering. His skill set is tailor made for that. And it’s not a surprise that since RR has emphasized pressing and a higher line that it’s exposed all of Maguires weaknesses.
 
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Very weird penalty call in the chelsea match
 

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I am 100% certain De Ligt will leave. I honestly wouldn't blame him. I would never want play for Allegri as player. I think I would play for Inter before going to any team with Allegri coaching it.
 
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I am 100% certain De Ligt will leave. I honestly wouldn't blame him. I would never want play for Allegri as player. I think I would play for Inter before going to any team with Allegri coaching it.
Was Allegri manager when de Ligt signed in the first place? Juve was always kind of a weird spot for him but that was probably Raiola’s doing more than anything.
 

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Was Allegri manager when de Ligt signed in the first place? Juve was always kind of a weird spot for him but that was probably Raiola’s doing more than anything.
He was fired when De Ligt signed. Just Allegri back has a backwards mentality. I don't see how joining Juventus is weird. Even at our worst, we are still "technically" a top team. The only thing odd is Juventus never properly rebuilt the midfield.
 
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