GWT: UCL R16 Second Legs (current events talk in First Leg thread)

[Live in the Now]

Everyone throwing stuff at Simeone is extremely low class behavior btw. I don't even know what the point of that is.

 

[Burner Account]

Maguire is honestly hilarious to watch half the time

Someone paying him tens of millions to play football is really one of the great mysteries

Semi-handsome English player syndrome

 

[willy702]

Everyone throwing stuff at Simeone is extremely low class behavior btw. I don't even know what the point of that is.

Yeah that was bad. Looked like what you see at games in Honduras or El Salvador, not in one of the sport's most legendary stadiums. Cholo didn't skip a beat though, he's made a habit of putting together a road match system that has no equal so he wasn't phased by the reaction.

 

[Juve]

Maguire is honestly hilarious to watch half the time

Someone paying him tens of millions to play football is really one of the great mysteries

It makes you wonder why anyone thought it was a good idea to spend 80 million dollars to get him.

 

[Chimaera]

I mean some in this forum did.

 

[Chimaera]

Everyone throwing stuff at Simeone is extremely low class behavior btw. I don't even know what the point of that is.

That stadium is a dump. So I guess some trash getting tossed out as well.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Everyone throwing stuff at Simeone is extremely low class behavior btw. I don't even know what the point of that is.

Most fans are vile and stupid individuals. Now add alcohol and a tough loss.

 

[hatterson]

Everyone throwing stuff at Simeone is extremely low class behavior btw. I don't even know what the point of that is.

Yea that was pretty embarrassing. As far as I’m concerned everyone caught on camera doing it should be banned for life and United‘a next UEFA fixture should be behind closed doors.

I have no tolerance for fans chucking stuff at players or coaches.

 

[Canes]

Atletico way too savvy for United.

Sancho quiet all game. Rashford awful off the bench.

Just a shit season.

Sancho was especially bad in the 2nd half. He was getting bullied I almost felt sorry for him. Rangnick probably should have saved a sub for him.

 

[les Habs]

Semi-handsome English player syndrome

He looks like a young Herman Munster.

 

[hatterson]

Sancho was especially bad in the 2nd half. He was getting bullied I almost felt sorry for him. Rangnick probably should have saved a sub for him.

Sancho off for Rashford would have made more sense than Elanga off. Although maybe Sancho for Lingard would have been better give how trash Rashford has been.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I mean some in this forum did.

Huh?

 

[Live in the Now]

Huh?

There were a decent amount of people who compared him to van Dijk even. I would rather not name names. I also posted this beaut three years ago:

Transfer: - Summer Transfer News and Rumors Part III

I'm not sure any of those Napoli players were as good as they are credited for being. Agreed. Very overrated team. There is no way Koulibaly is an 80mil defender. They already duped Juventus into paying 90mil for Higuain.

hfboards.mandatory.com

Aged well.

 

[AB13]

Semi-handsome English player syndrome

Semi-Handsome?

 

[AB13]

Maguire has got big flaws but he would also be a lot better than we are seeing in a system that would expose his weaknesses less. After the CL Final, Guardiola realised that playing Dias as a left sided CB in possession exposed his lack of pace in transition, so he started playing him deeper and using Walker and Stones/Laporte as wide CBs for their recovery pace. And that’s what United should do with Maguire. He gets exposed because the left back is too high up the pitch, so he has to cover some huge spaces (LCB spot + LB spot). Maguire doesn’t have the legs to do that, so you could help him out with an inverted LB.

 

[Savi]

Lack of pace isn't really what I'm thinking about with Maguire. It's his panicky play on and off the ball and the fact his brain seems to shut down from time to time.

 

[Incubajerks]

The usual Ajax all smoke and no roast, or if you prefer, all talk and a badge.

 

[Chimaera]

Huh?

At multiple points, especially when he did have a decent run of form there have been many who crowed about how good Maguire was. The price isn’t his fault, and English, but man he needs a sabbatical

 

[Live in the Now]

At multiple points, especially when he did have a decent run of form there have been many who crowed about how good Maguire was. The price isn’t his fault, and English, but man he needs a sabbatical

Tbh his partner has also just been alright. That doesn’t help.

 

[Chimaera]

I get it. But does Lindelof not have as much talent as some of what some other top defenders are playing next to? Even with Varane, he looks lost.

Shit... Ole played a defensive counter attacking style and he still struggled.

 

[Juve]

The usual Ajax all smoke and no roast, or if you prefer, all talk and a badge.

Someone has been watching too much Untouchables. haha

 

[Chimaera]

Lack of pace isn't really what I'm thinking about with Maguire. It's his panicky play on and off the ball and the fact his brain seems to shut down from time to time.

He has no idea whatsoever what he is supposed to do at times.

He steps up when he shouldn't. He tries to play back and respect pace when he shouldn't. He carries the ball when he shouldn't. He makes a challenge when it isn't necessary. He avoids the ball when he might be better off stepping out on his man.

I don't think there's a bad footballer in there, I just think the pressure of wanting to do too much, the fee, the fact that his side is shit, the different manager approaches, and he just has no real idea of how he should be playing football, along with wanting to do too much.

I think a lot of good footballers would struggle in that situation. There's a reason Klopp is taking it slow with Konate. You don't want to put too much on them, as sometimes they'll overcorrect.

 

[Savant]

Leicester was Maguire’s level. You can get away with him in a back three where he doesn’t have to do anything because he has two other center backs covering him, but that’s about it. Utd did what they do recently and couldn’t resist the tabloids favorite England player and we know how much it cost them. I’ve been saying since in seen Maguire. He’s the same player as Martin Skrtel was.

 

[hatterson]

I think that has a lot of truth in it. He has underlying skill to be a very solid defender, but he can’t take the pressure of being the leading man for a club like Manchester United with the added pressure the fee brings.

The problem is I don’t know if there’s a way to undo that at United. Even if they acquired a VVD like elite defender/presence, Maguire would still be looked at as a leader given his tenure and price tag.

Varane is obviously a big name, but too far along in his career to reasonably take the title of “leader” of the back line away from Maguire.

 

[Chimaera]

I don't agree.

I think he's a pretty good footballer. He is not worth what they paid. But he's better than he has shown. I think the parade of defenders next to him, the mediocrity in front of him providing cover and meh management, and it's where it is. He's trying to do too much. Klopp could fix him.