ACC1224
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Wow, please at least know what you are posting....Gardiner made the Leafs out of camp in his first season....so he never started out on the farm.
Then the whole discussion is about draft picks of ours.....but hey do not let facts get in the way of you posting things that are not correct!
As for trading up to get Biggs........yes, I'd agree that it wasn't wise. But hindsight is always 20/20. And that was the guy they wanted so they took a risk. They also had the Percy pick so they likely felt they could afford to go a little riskier.
Percy is not a bust but a project as well. Not impressed with his game either. Not a great 1st round by the Leafs. Didn't Burke trade-up in the 2nd to get Ross too? That may have been the year before Biggs and Percy.
When Drafted he was a big strong winger who plays hard can fight well and skates very well for a big man. his main drawback was not being able to create offensively by himself and would need to ride shotgun on a skill line to produce offensively. When he was put on a line in the OHL with Jenner he played awesome and kept up to his pace. He was good on the boards drove the net, fought guys that Jenner didn't want to fight and was really sound defensively. this past year he was put on a line with guys that don't create and he didn't create. players like Lucic Brown Bickell don't create alone they need to have skill with Biggs might not make it but he needs to be put in a position to succeed as he was in Oshawa before we can gage his development
Jack rabbits can't play with beached whales, half Clarksons problem is he is way to slow to keep up with the play. No more anchors with our good quick players pleeeease
24 jack rabbits on one team, who is going to stand in front of the net or get them the puck?
It's not a question of whether a team needs toughness. Every team does, though it helps if the tough players can also produce in other ways. It isn't even a question about whether trading two top forty picks to get Biggs was a mistake. It sure looks as if it was, but that is hindsight and nothing can be done about it now. (One of the pro Biggs posters mentions his play with Jenner. I would rather have had Jenner, but, once again, that is water under the bridge.) You evaluate the player not on the circumstances of his acquisition but on the basis of his performance and his development.
The real question is whether he is on track to become a useful NHL player in the relatively near future. After all is about to begin the fourth year of that five year window some posters mention. I believe the answer is a definite maybe. He isn't a bust yet because he still shows the gifts that made him a first rounder in his draft year, size, skating and sandpaper and from time to time I have seen him flash moments of skill also. It's not wild optimism to think he might become a useful third or fourth line winger. But he certainly hasn't been very productive and there is no evidence whatever that he should be put on a top line. He hasn't earned it.
I admit I didn't see him as much this year as I would have liked. When I took the time to watch a Marlies game, he seemed often to be a healthy scratch. Which does say something.
This hurts my brain...
You realize this roster:
P. Kane - P. Kane - P. Kane
P. Kane - P. Kane - P. Kane
P. Kane - P. Kane - P. Kane
P. Kane - P. Kane - P. Kane
Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson - Karlsson
Goalie
Would beat any current NHL team, including the Cup-winning LA Kings, right?
Please tell me you understand that.
this hurts my brain...
You realize this roster:
p. Kane - p. Kane - p. Kane
p. Kane - p. Kane - p. Kane
p. Kane - p. Kane - p. Kane
p. Kane - p. Kane - p. Kane
karlsson - karlsson
karlsson - karlsson
karlsson - karlsson
goalie
would beat any current nhl team, including the cup-winning la kings, right?
Please tell me you understand that.