GDT: Tuesday in Denver: Flames at Avs 7PM MT on SNF

[Gritty]

So that Auston Matthews kid looks good....

 

[Mr Lebowski]

somehow Brodie stays +3 on the night

 

[joeyabs]

Bennett now tied for 7 in rookie scoring

 

[DFF]

Leland Irving come on down!

Yup bring back memory of the good old days...top it off with blowing draft picks on Kris Chucko and Matt Pelech

 

[Bouma Fett*]

I'm happy with Engelland, trying to lead with veteran example. He's been pretty solid this season

 

[Yung Rotini]

At least our Corsi is near league average amirite

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Honestly, I know he just had a hat trick the other night, but am I the only one unimpressed with Frolik 13 games into the season?

Doesn't bring the sheer desperation of Bouma.
Doesn't bring the physicality of Ferland.
Doesn't bring the speed of Byron. (who we waived, in case you forgot)
Doesn't bring the hands in-tight of Glencross.
Doesn't bring the shot of Cammalleri (who's only actually 0.7M cap hit more than him...)

I know, he's pretty good on the forecheck and... well that's about it. Swiss Army Knife? More like... generic middle 6 NHLer.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Honestly, I know he just had a hat trick the other night, but am I the only one unimpressed with Frolik 13 games into the season?

Doesn't bring the sheer desperation of Bouma.
Doesn't bring the physicality of Ferland.
Doesn't bring the speed of Byron. (who we waived, in case you forgot)
Doesn't bring the hands in-tight of Glencross.
Doesn't bring the shot of Cammalleri (who's only actually 0.7M cap hit more than him...)

I know, he's pretty good on the forecheck and... well that's about it. Swiss Army Knife? More like... generic middle 6 NHLer.

He's no Byron, that's for sure.

 

[Lunatik]

this Byron crap is really reaching the point of blatant trolling

 

[Yung Rotini]

this Byron crap is really reaching the point of blatant trolling

Byron is the key guys

 

[Gritty]

this Byron crap is really reaching the point of blatant trolling

No kidding. It's extremely exhausting and annoying at this point.

 

[joeyabs]

Honestly, I know he just had a hat trick the other night, but am I the only one unimpressed with Frolik 13 games into the season?

Doesn't bring the sheer desperation of Bouma.
Doesn't bring the physicality of Ferland.
Doesn't bring the speed of Byron. (who we waived, in case you forgot)
Doesn't bring the hands in-tight of Glencross.
Doesn't bring the shot of Cammalleri (who's only actually 0.7M cap hit more than him...)

I know, he's pretty good on the forecheck and... well that's about it. Swiss Army Knife? More like... generic middle 6 NHLer.

Yes. The only one

 

[Lunatik]

No kidding. It's extremely exhausting and annoying at this point.

I know, we get it certain posters liked Byron but acting like he is jesus christ himself and the reason our season is going down the toilet is just trolling people at this point.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I'm opening the Church of Byron. Accepting new members.

Call 1-800-PAL-BYON

 

[Kovaz]

Honestly, I know he just had a hat trick the other night, but am I the only one unimpressed with Frolik 13 games into the season?

Doesn't bring the sheer desperation of Bouma.
Doesn't bring the physicality of Ferland.
Doesn't bring the speed of Byron. (who we waived, in case you forgot)
Doesn't bring the hands in-tight of Glencross.
Doesn't bring the shot of Cammalleri (who's only actually 0.7M cap hit more than him...)

I know, he's pretty good on the forecheck and... well that's about it. Swiss Army Knife? More like... generic middle 6 NHLer.

So you're comparing him against those players' best attributes? Well obviously he's not going to be as physical as our most physical player, or as fast as our fastest. That's, like, the definition of being a Swiss Army Knife. He isn't elite at any one thing, but he's solid at everything and very effective. He's a winger version of Backlund at his best.

I've been very happy with Frolik. Even at the start of the year when no one was going, he created a ton of turnovers that led to scoring chances, and he's got a good stick in the defensive zone. He's played the type of game where, if he had 0 points right now, I'd still be fairly content, but on top of that he's third in the team in points.

If you're looking for a player to blame, Frolik should be near the bottom of the list with Gaudreau and Brodie.

 

[Anglesmith]

So you're comparing him against those players' best attributes? Well obviously he's not going to be as physical as our most physical player, or as fast as our fastest. That's, like, the definition of being a Swiss Army Knife. He isn't elite at any one thing, but he's solid at everything and very effective. He's a winger version of Backlund at his best.

I've been very happy with Frolik. Even at the start of the year when no one was going, he created a ton of turnovers that led to scoring chances, and he's got a good stick in the defensive zone. He's played the type of game where, if he had 0 points right now, I'd still be fairly content, but on top of that he's third in the team in points.

If you're looking for a player to blame, Frolik should be near the bottom of the list with Gaudreau and Brodie.

I'd agree with this, but I also do get frustrated at times. His lack of speed does sometimes kill plays, and his lack of hands in tight as well. But overall, there isn't much to complain about. He's an effective player in spite of any shortcomings.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

He isn't elite at any one thing, but he's solid at everything and very effective.

Well that's the thing. I don't think he's even solid at everything. He's got some strengths, which you noted, but he's below average at a lot of things. His shot is a muffin, his speed unremarkable, and he's one of the least physical forwards on a team with Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau. Unlike Backlund, he doesn't have that nifty ability to get the puck into the zone either.

If you're looking for a player to blame, Frolik should be near the bottom of the list with Gaudreau and Brodie.

Never said I blamed Frolik for this loss. As far as the loss goes, it's on Ramo, he has to be better. The Flames are currently 12th worst in scoring chances against yet allowing 4.2 goals per game. Those scoring chance numbers should tell you we're not a great defensive team, but league average goaltending would probably have us around 2.8 goals against per game where Dallas is currently sitting.

 

[Lunatik]

So you're comparing him against those players' best attributes? Well obviously he's not going to be as physical as our most physical player, or as fast as our fastest. That's, like, the definition of being a Swiss Army Knife. He isn't elite at any one thing, but he's solid at everything and very effective. He's a winger version of Backlund at his best.

I've been very happy with Frolik. Even at the start of the year when no one was going, he created a ton of turnovers that led to scoring chances, and he's got a good stick in the defensive zone. He's played the type of game where, if he had 0 points right now, I'd still be fairly content, but on top of that he's third in the team in points.

If you're looking for a player to blame, Frolik should be near the bottom of the list with Gaudreau and Brodie.

Some just don't get it. Frolik is a better version of Backlund. He's on par or slightly better defensively and better offensively. Contrary to what I said at the time of the signing he does look like a 2nd liner through and though.

If the guy had all those attributes he'd be Jarome Iginla

 

[Turning Mangiapanese]

I know, we get it certain posters liked Byron but acting like he is jesus christ himself and the reason our season is going down the toilet is just trolling people at this point.

It's trolling but it's not actual Byron fans that are doing it. Seems to be working though.

 

[Bouma Fett*]

I like Frolik, can slide up and down the lineup really easily, doesn't seem to have much issue playing well with anyone on his lines, and has minimal adjustment time to the line shuffling, he just seems at ease no matter who he plays with.

 

[Snazu]

Well we're dominating one category league wide. We have 5 players in the top ten for the worst plus/minus. The top 3 are all flames dmen. 7 in the top 20

1. Kris Russell 2015-2016 CGY D -15
2. Dennis Wideman 2015-2016 CGY D -12
3. Dougie Hamilton 2015-2016 CGY D -11
4. Dalton Prout 2015-2016 CBJ D -11
5. Joe Colborne 2015-2016 CGY C -10
6. David Jones 2015-2016 CGY R -9
7. William Karlsson 2015-2016 CBJ C -9
8. Wayne Simmonds 2015-2016 PHI R -8
9. Valtteri Filppula 2015-2016 TBL C -8
10. Matt Duchene 2015-2016 COL C -8

12. Mikael Backlund 2015-2016 CGY C -8
13. Sean Monahan 2015-2016 CGY C -7

 

[SaintMorose]

Well we're dominating one category league wide. We have 5 players in the top ten for the worst plus/minus. The top 3 are all flames dmen. 7 in the top 20

1. Kris Russell 2015-2016 CGY D -15
2. Dennis Wideman 2015-2016 CGY D -12
3. Dougie Hamilton 2015-2016 CGY D -11
4. Dalton Prout 2015-2016 CBJ D -11
5. Joe Colborne 2015-2016 CGY C -10
6. David Jones 2015-2016 CGY R -9
7. William Karlsson 2015-2016 CBJ C -9
8. Wayne Simmonds 2015-2016 PHI R -8
9. Valtteri Filppula 2015-2016 TBL C -8
10. Matt Duchene 2015-2016 COL C -8

12. Mikael Backlund 2015-2016 CGY C -8
13. Sean Monahan 2015-2016 CGY C -7

And TJ Brodies +4 after 4 games is better per game than anyone in the league except for Leon in Edmonton (who's line is on fire).

It's funny how it's not the entire team struggling with a system but certain players falling to earth like rocks. Guys like Brodie, Gaudreau, Bennett(while playing top6 without Backlund), Engelland(how did he make the decision to be way better than last year), Hudler and Frolik really have deserved a better fate this season.

 

[hangman005]

Fun fact of the game.... Bennett had more goals disallowed than our defense playing defense and goaltenders making clutch saves this season combined.

 

[Rangediddy]

Well we're dominating one category league wide. We have 5 players in the top ten for the worst plus/minus. The top 3 are all flames dmen. 7 in the top 20

1. Kris Russell 2015-2016 CGY D -15
2. Dennis Wideman 2015-2016 CGY D -12
3. Dougie Hamilton 2015-2016 CGY D -11
4. Dalton Prout 2015-2016 CBJ D -11
5. Joe Colborne 2015-2016 CGY C -10
6. David Jones 2015-2016 CGY R -9
7. William Karlsson 2015-2016 CBJ C -9
8. Wayne Simmonds 2015-2016 PHI R -8
9. Valtteri Filppula 2015-2016 TBL C -8
10. Matt Duchene 2015-2016 COL C -8

12. Mikael Backlund 2015-2016 CGY C -8
13. Sean Monahan 2015-2016 CGY C -7

Who's #11? Seems weird to leave it out. Is that like a superstition like not having a 13th floor in a building?

Gotta think Dougie's scratched for next game. That empty net goal was just embarrassing. Bring Nakladal in and put Dougie in the press box.

 

[Boomstick]

Anyone want to dub Karri Red Light Ramo?