TSN Overdrive (and other Toronto Sports Media)

[Anthrax442]

Toronto Sports Media Fall Radio Ratings

Drive home, McCown goes from a 6.4 to a 5.5 and an 8.5 to a 6.3 down a whack from 10.1 and 14.8 a year ago. Someone will have to tell me the last time Bob had a 5.5 in a major book. TSN improved from a 1.5 to a 1.7 which is steady with last year in the older demo. Surprisingly they lost .8 in the younger demo.

 

[Damisoph]

I have always had an issue with TV and radio ratings. How do they know what I listen to/watch? What is the sample size? It's all very fishy to me.

 

[CalEh]

I think some people are missing the point with O'Dog. He knows he had a great career as a professional athlete and I'm sure he knows he has a great gig at TSN. His constant complaints are more of a joke/persona than anything else.

Keep in mind that the demands and pressures of a Pro Athlete are probably much higher than the average job. O''Dog lived this, and if he wants to take the odd day off in his radio career, I think he's earned that.

O'Dog often talk about the guys who grind it out at work day to day. He talks of his brother who is a Cop, and how his Dad is a blue collar guy. I'm sure he understands he has it pretty good. And the reason he does the show is to bring a little laughter/joy/entertainment to the average guy who is grinding it out. I know that's why I tune in.

This is exactly it.

I've had some encounters with Jeff. It's definitely an act. He's a good man.

 

[CalEh]

Old People.

Precisely.

 

[tmlms13]

They need to get overdrive on TV more if they have any hope of matching the ratings. PTS is on TV 4-7 5 days a week. OD is on 6-7 a few days a week. I can't listen live, but I listen to the podcast nearly every day

 

[Anthrax442]

It will take time to build an Audience. McCown been on air for 79 years.

 

[Ratboy]

Or Bagels

Off the record.. they stole that idea from some one else who pitched it to them.

Also for someone who sells energy drinks and is on his mental health crusade he should know those things can cause panic attacks in susceptible individuals.

 

[Brown Dog]

McCown is terrible, sometimes unlistenable IMO. He rambles, long pauses, fake badass shtick, gaps in knowledge, and long stretches going on about non-sports stuff.

I'm a Toronto sports fan looking for some good sports talk on my drive home, and I try but can't listen. You don't get it on PTS. For the life of me I can't imagine who likes that show.

 

[Spirit of 67]

I never liked O'Neill so your post is pointless.

Maybe in relation to you but these days people in general don't disagree with other people. They f-ing hate them for having a different opinion.

 

[MsMeow]

Tsn radio related .. Lansbergs been getting on my nerves. Maybe he should lay off the energy drinks.

I think Landsberg is too into himself to get along with a lot of people. Cauz's presence makes him more tolerable. A few weeks ago Cauz or whoever was with Landsberg was throwing out names of people Landsberg has worked with and Landsberg was saying whether they got along or not. I was really surprised to hear him talk about how many he didn't like. It was a strange segment.

 

[Ratboy]

McCown is terrible, sometimes unlistenable IMO. He rambles, long pauses, fake badass shtick, gaps in knowledge, and long stretches going on about non-sports stuff.

I'm a Toronto sports fan looking for some good sports talk on my drive home, and I try but can't listen. You don't get it on PTS. For the life of me I can't imagine who likes that show.

It used to be good when he would have callers for the first hour, he'd lay into people he thought were dumb. It was entertaining.

but now, compared to OverDrive, it ain't shit.

 

[Ratboy]

I think Landsberg is too into himself to get along with a lot of people. Cauz's presence makes him more tolerable. A few weeks ago Cauz or whoever was with Landsberg was throwing out names of people Landsberg has worked with and Landsberg was saying whether they got along or not. I was really surprised to hear him talk about how many he didn't like. It was a strange segment.

His ego is simply too big to get along with others. It says more about him than who he worked with, honestly.

 

[LeafsNation75]

If there is one criticism of OverDrive it would be this. During the months of July and August both O'Neil and McLennan are not on. So I wonder what their ratings are during that time because you also have to factor in how the majority of what they talk is about is Leafs related, compared to the amount of Raptors and Blue Jays talk they sometimes throw in. Say what you want about McCown because at least he is on 12 months a year, with the exceptions of his many vacations he always seems to be on.

 

[Tak7]

If there is one criticism of OverDrive it would be this. During the months of July and August both O'Neil and McLennan are not on. So I wonder what their ratings are during that time because you also have to factor in how the majority of what they talk is about is Leafs related, compared to the amount of Raptors and Blue Jays talk they sometimes throw in. Say what you want about McCown because at least he is on 12 months a year, with the exceptions of his many vacations he always seems to be on.

Their non-hockey talk when they are on, feels a bit forced and unnatural, so I don't really mind the break they take in the summer.

But I totally get your point. People tune in more for the personalities and the content, and when they aren't there, you'd expect there to be some hit in ratings.

Personally I really like Hayes so I tune in when I can, regardless of who he has on with him. But it's an infinitely less interesting show when those guys aren't on with him.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Their non-hockey talk when they are on, feels a bit forced and unnatural, so I don't really mind the break they take in the summer.

But I totally get your point. People tune in more for the personalities and the content, and when they aren't there, you'd expect there to be some hit in ratings.

Personally I really like Hayes so I tune in when I can, regardless of who he has on with him. But it's an infinitely less interesting show when those guys aren't on with him.

I agree that if it's just Hayes by himself during the summer months he's a very good host.

Also on Wednesday's when they have Gerry's Percentages but when Gerry e-mails the questions which means O'Neil is not there since he does the voice, I turn off the segment because it's not the same without him.

 

[Damisoph]

If there is one criticism of OverDrive it would be this. During the months of July and August both O'Neil and McLennan are not on. So I wonder what their ratings are during that time because you also have to factor in how the majority of what they talk is about is Leafs related, compared to the amount of Raptors and Blue Jays talk they sometimes throw in. Say what you want about McCown because at least he is on 12 months a year, with the exceptions of his many vacations he always seems to be on.

Ya that's a good point, Noodles knows next to nothing about anything other than hockey, unless it's useless general knowledge as I learned during quiz night v2.0. Hayes is very knowledgeable so he can carry a show that isn't hockey-centric. O'Neill is somewhere in between, he knows a lot of about golf.

 

[bax]

If there is one criticism of OverDrive it would be this. During the months of July and August both O'Neil and McLennan are not on. So I wonder what their ratings are during that time because you also have to factor in how the majority of what they talk is about is Leafs related, compared to the amount of Raptors and Blue Jays talk they sometimes throw in. Say what you want about McCown because at least he is on 12 months a year, with the exceptions of his many vacations he always seems to be on.

That's a good question, would love to see the answer to that. I don't mind PTS at all, I just prefer Hayes as a host.Personally I used to love when Leafs lunch ended and the Hayes show kicked in and he went on one of his long rants. Guy is top notch and hopefully will just keep building his fan base and ratings. Overdrive with or without Noodles and O'Dog for me.

 

[Walshy7]

Ya that's a good point, Noodles knows next to nothing about anything other than hockey, unless it's useless general knowledge as I learned during quiz night v2.0. Hayes is very knowledgeable so he can carry a show that isn't hockey-centric. O'Neill is somewhere in between, he knows a lot of about golf.

Outside of golf Odog talks like he knows a lot about other sports but really doesn't. IMO they should split the show into 3 distinct segments.
-hour 1 leafs talk ie: last game, news from the leafs,
-hour 2 NHL talk including ferraro's segment which is about 20-25 mins.
-hour 3 other sports news and odog and noodles can go home after hour 2 they add nothing to other sports anyway, and they have to go do TV a lot of the time etc

 

[bax]

Outside of golf Odog talks like he knows a lot about other sports but really doesn't. IMO they should split the show into 3 distinct segments.
-hour 1 leafs talk ie: last game, news from the leafs,
-hour 2 NHL talk including ferraro's segment which is about 20-25 mins.
-hour 3 other sports news and odog and noodles can go home after hour 2 they add nothing to other sports anyway, and they have to go do TV a lot of the time etc

I'd be on board with that format!

 

[LeafsNation75]

Outside of golf Odog talks like he knows a lot about other sports but really doesn't. IMO they should split the show into 3 distinct segments.
-hour 1 leafs talk ie: last game, news from the leafs,
-hour 2 NHL talk including ferraro's segment which is about 20-25 mins.
-hour 3 other sports news and odog and noodles can go home after hour 2 they add nothing to other sports anyway, and they have to go do TV a lot of the time etc

I said this before and I will say it again. During hour 2 on Wednesday's Gerry's Percentages is a must listen to segment.

 

[Walshy7]

I said this before and I will say it again. During hour 2 on Wednesday's Gerry's Percentages is a must listen to segment.

yeah that's fine, it can still fit in the "NHL hour" they are mostly NHL %'s anyway and a few other sports thrown in are ok, its when those 2 have to sit a discuss other sports they are noticeably out of their element

 

[Anthrax442]

Outside of golf Odog talks like he knows a lot about other sports but really doesn't. IMO they should split the show into 3 distinct segments.
-hour 1 leafs talk ie: last game, news from the leafs,
-hour 2 NHL talk including ferraro's segment which is about 20-25 mins.
-hour 3 other sports news and odog and noodles can go home after hour 2 they add nothing to other sports anyway, and they have to go do TV a lot of the time etc

Who cares about other sports anyway. THat's why you have guest experts to talk about that stuff.

 

[TootooTrain]

There's alot of mouths to feed on a sports radio show. The fact that they concentrate on hockey in canada shouldn't surprise anyone.
If in your opinion they don't concentrate enough on other sports, that's perfectly fine to think. However the options are aplenty in regards to podcasts/radio.
I've got an NFL and MLB podcast I listen to a fair bit to fill that need.

 

[pcruz]

Noodles may not know much about sports other than hockey, but it seems like he knows every pro athlete in North America and has partied with him/her before.
He's also far and away the most level headed and most analytical hockey guy in sports talk radio (as a host).
Ray's segment is the best breakdown of sports you can get on AM radio as well.

I won't lie, I enjoy listening to PTS on podcast as well, but that's for a look into not only other sports, but alternative looks into the major sports as well.

 

[TMLeafer]

Hayes really makes that show. It's very apparent when MacArthur fills in.