Injury Report: Trouba - returned from concussion 03/31

SM17

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Anyone have a link to this minimum 7 days concussion protocol thing? Is this a Jets organization rule? I haven't been able to find the protocol anywhere.

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This is why I ask:

"There is no mandatory period of time that a Player must be withheld from play following a concussion, as the return to play decision is based on the individual circumstances of that Player." So just wondering if that is something the Jets staff has laid out?
 
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Zero argument that the smart thing to do here is to take the BIG money LONG term deal and run.....But every month that goes by the clock ticks louder and louder for both Chevy and Trouba as they get close to that 18 month line in the sand from UFA......

Does something happen at 18 months? Honest question. I don’t know much about RFA/UFA rules.
 

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Thank you for your smart ass response.

I am in fact a proficient user of google, and did in fact read the protocol. In the protocol it says "There is no mandatory period of time that a Player must be withheld from play following a concussion, as the return to play decision is based on the individual circumstances of that Player." which is why I am wondering why people keep saying he is out for 7 days minimum due to protocol.
 

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i said "minimum" rest of the season for a reason. if it takes longer than that so be it, but anything short of a month or so is way too fast, no matter what symptoms he is or isn't having; especially when we've essentially made the playoffs already.

Well, I wouldn't put any specific time limit on it (what do I know?) but if you just said that you favour taking extra care and erring on the safe side, I would agree. :)
 
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I don't think Bogo was traded because he was injury prone. I doubt that Trouba would be traded for that reason.

Pretty sure injuries played a part. Just guessing of course. There were other rumours that can't be repeated here.

We don't actually know how that deal evolved. Maybe Buffalo asked for Bogo. I assume there was some back and forth. 'If you want X you will have to give us Y' until both sides were happy with the value.

I liked the value for us at the time, even though I was a little skeptical about Armia. Now, it is hard not to laugh when I type that both sides were happy. :laugh:

For Sabres fans' sake I hope SJS keep Kane, so they at least get 1st for him.
 

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There isn't much a team can do if the player successfully passes all stages of the protocol. The PA can get involved if a team is purposeully holding a "healthy" player out.

This is why there needs to be a different set of testing and monitoring to take the say out of the players hands. I have some hope that that new brain blood flow MRI that can monitor the flow in healthy vs. Healing brains will revolutionize the diagnosis and monitoring recovery of concusions.

I agree that better science would help - in multiple ways. For now though, they have established protocols. As far as we know the best available information has been used to do that. We have come a long way from 'walk it off' and 'how many fingers am I holding up'.
 

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On these concussions- I sort of liken them to a "pinball machine" going on tilt. When you shake and jar the machine to much, you upset it's natural equilibrium, and the machine shuts down-- in order to protect itself.

When a person is hit hard enough and the head is "jolted" the brain collides with the inside of the skull, and maybe creates a small bruise on the brain. It's the body's natural response to protect itself by creating these symptoms, causing a need for rest, until the brain fully heals and there are no more symptoms. It's a matter of time, for this to heal.

I recall players like Eric Lindros, Laine and Crosby taking big hits and having concussions, but eventually they came back to full operational capacity, so I don't think Trouba is injury prone like some people suggest. He just took a big hit, and it's really the first time he's had this sort of injury. I think he will be just fine, with a little time.

My guess is that he'll be back in about 10 days or so ( maybe sooner) and be playing very well, and things will get back to normal.
 
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Peggy

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Didn’t know a high ankle sprain was related to a concussion. Learn something new everyday I guess.

I plead ignorance. it's been awhile since I've been kept updated with his injuries

for some reason I thought it was related
 

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That is a player's name. That is not evidence.
He was back in game action after what, 15-18 days roughly? Skating even sooner.

Given how hard of a hit he took and how he was unconscious and all, I think it's safe to say that's far too early. They may not have "rushed" him in the sense that they took shortcuts to get him back in the lineup, they were just following the league protocol after all. What I am saying though, is that the league is still not 100% up to date with it's view and action on concussions so by that stance, due to their so called ignorance compared to the latest medical studies, I would consider it rushing players back who may not be ready.
 

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trouba is already out again

What the heck are you talking about. Trouba had a high ankle sprain. He was not returning from a concussion. He was also out of the lineup for two months
 

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He was back in game action after what, 15-18 days roughly? Skating even sooner.

Given how hard of a hit he took and how he was unconscious and all, I think it's safe to say that's far too early. They may not have "rushed" him in the sense that they took shortcuts to get him back in the lineup, they were just following the league protocol after all. What I am saying though, is that the league is still not 100% up to date with it's view and action on concussions so by that stance, due to their so called ignorance compared to the latest medical studies, I would consider it rushing players back who may not be ready.

What evidence do you have that he came back too soon? You are just making shit up for no reason and with no knowledge
 
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What the heck are you talking about. Trouba had a high ankle sprain. He was not returning from a concussion. He was also out of the lineup for two months

look up a couple posts. already said "my bad"
 

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For a completely different reason. Are you being serious with this? :huh:
IMO it gets pretty old all this "rushing back players" and "hold the player out as a precaution" arguments. The Jets work with some of the most respected doctors in Winnipeg's medical community. People who would not be associated with risking further injury by being pressured by a sports organization to clear a player who wasn't medically fit. I think it is safe to say when the Jets clear players they have met industry standards for good medical care.
 

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Pretty sure injuries played a part. Just guessing of course. There were other rumours that can't be repeated here.
well, Trouba seems to also be injury prone. past injuries were rumoured to be similar to Bogo's.

in the end, i wonder if we have to admit that Trouba and Scheifele may be a bit injury prone
 

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well, Trouba seems to also be injury prone. past injuries were rumoured to be similar to Bogo's.

in the end, i wonder if we have to admit that Trouba and Scheifele may be a bit injury prone
Bambi is definitely a bit injury proned. I wonder which players aren't.
 

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Hey is this the how Trouba made out on his specialist thread ? How is Trouba doing ?
 

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