Value of: Trading Draisaitl

[Walkingthroughforest]

There's not much to say about the Oilers that hasn't already been stated.

Depth and high end talent on the blue line is non-existent.
McDavid, Draisaitl, and RNH are the only players resembling top 6 talent on the entire team.
Goaltending is a massive question mark.

I think it's fair to speculate that after McDavid's remarks last night there more than likely will be massive changes happening in the summer if the Oilers expect him to complete his contract. This is potentially the only scenario which could push Katz to make decisions with ramifications directed at the OBC.

If this does happen and the Oilers fully clean house, is trading Draisaitl a solution to fixing the team? He's hit a career high of over 100+ points and has a contract which could start looking like a bargain if the Matthews deal becomes the gold standard. A trade at (what could be) his highest value could potentially pull a good top 4 defender and a few top 6 players plus picks. There's so many holes that the Oilers have, and I don't know how you fill them without giving up something significant. Does trading Draisaitl become a realistic option to fix them?

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[BK201]

Mmmm no.

 

[Habs10Habs]

Only if you want McDavid to request a trade out of Edmonton 10 minutes after. Moving Draisaitl would be the 2nd last thing I would do if I were the Oilers GM.

 

[sansabri]

His deal is already a bargain.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Ya trade away the one player that makes McDavid happy to come to the rink genius.

 

[Oliewud]

I think trading RNH makes more sense. I would use him to move up in the draft and acquire Bowen Byram.

Have Mcdavid and Draistal as your #1 and #2 centers along with Byram as #1 D. Use free agency to acquire depth on the wing.

 

[Seachd]

The fix to the Oilers doesn’t exist on one team, so it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to trade your second best player for a partial improvement.

 

[780il]

Mmmm no.

Only if you want McDavid to request a trade out of Edmonton 10 minutes after. Moving Draisaitl would be the 2nd last thing I would do if I were the Oilers GM.

His deal is already a bargain.

Ya trade away the one player that makes McDavid happy to come to the rink genius.

All these non Oilers fans get it... Why don't you.

Trading Draisaitl would make Mcdavid request a trade immediately. Trading a 23 year old with almost 50 goals and 100+ points is NOT part of the solution. Especially when said 23 year old is still signed for 6 more years at a bargain of a cap hit.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I don't see how they trade Draisaitl and get better.

One of their major issues is their cap makeup, Draisaitl is on what is shaping out to be a very good contract. So I don't think moving Draisaitl solves their problem.

If you're looking to a star they can move to put a few different pieces in place and try to get better, that might be RNH. He'll cost nearly as much as Draisaitl on his next contract, he has more value now with two years remaining and coming off of a strong season than he'll have at the end of his contract. If they don't think they can pay him 8M+ in two seasons, RNH is the one to trade now.

 

[leeroggy]

Instead of just dismissing it, how about thinking about how a HOCKEY TRADE might look, instead of a futures trade?

Draisaitl would obviously bring a LOT.

RNH and McDavid are the 2 centers to start with. You need wing scoring, goaltending and defense. So look at how many teams could give you that in mostly PROVEN NHL talent and still would love to add a young stud center.

Let's say you are Tampa and somehow lose in the 2nd round and need to maybe change things. Suppose the offer for Draisaitl is:

Point, Cirelli and Sergachev for Draisaitl . . . do you really hang up the phone on that without thinking long and hard?

Maybe St. Louis can offer Allen, Parayko and Schwartz.

Maybe Boston could offer Krejci, DeBrusk, Krug, etc . . .

Maybe Carolina offers Svechnikov, Teravainen and Pesce . . .

There are ways to reconfigure a team in a hockey sense that makes you at least think about these types of moves. You just missed the playoffs AGAIN, why is Draisaitl untouchable? RNH will not bring back what you need by himself.

A hockey trade like one of those also lets you trade down for a lower pick and another defenseman, like Fowler and the lower 1st could be used on Spencer Knight (heck, draft another goalie in the 2nd or 3rd round).

If you are okay with trying to reconfigure you could come out of this with a completely re-done, much more balanced lineup.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Edmonton has three forwards worth a damn. The solution to this team’s woes is not in trading one of them.

Draisaitl is absolutely, unequivocally not for sale. You would have to knock the whole house down, not just blow the doors off.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Instead of just dismissing it, how about thinking about how a HOCKEY TRADE might look, instead of a futures trade?

Draisaitl would obviously bring a LOT.

RNH and McDavid are the 2 centers to start with. You need wing scoring, goaltending and defense. So look at how many teams could give you that in mostly PROVEN NHL talent and still would love to add a young stud center.

Let's say you are Tampa and somehow lose in the 2nd round and need to maybe change things. Suppose the offer for Draisaitl is:

Point, Cirelli and Sergachev for Draisaitl . . . do you really hang up the phone on that without thinking long and hard?

Maybe St. Louis can offer Allen, Parayko and Schwartz.

Maybe Boston could offer Krejci, DeBrusk, Krug, etc . . .

Maybe Carolina offers Svechnikov, Teravainen and Pesce . . .

There are ways to reconfigure a team in a hockey sense that makes you at least think about these types of moves. You just missed the playoffs AGAIN, why is Draisaitl untouchable? RNH will not bring back what you need by himself.

A hockey trade like one of those also lets you trade down for a lower pick and another defenseman, like Fowler and the lower 1st could be used on Spencer Knight (heck, draft another goalie in the 2nd or 3rd round).

If you are okay with trying to reconfigure you could come out of this with a completely re-done, much more balanced lineup.

The Blues package and the Bruins package are instant hard no’s. Jake Allen is garbage and negative value and Krejci is massively expensive.

Tampa wouldn’t offer that and even if they did how’s Edmonton supposed to afford that package going forward? Ditto the Carolina package. That’s what you’re missing. There is almost no package offered that is 1) affordable 2) worthwhile for Edmonton and 3) going to be reasonably put on the table.

Fowler and a pick? You’re out of your damned mind. That’s worse than anything Chiarelli ever did. B

 

[rynryn]

we have a german now too! trade him to us so they can be best bros

 

[780il]

Instead of just dismissing it, how about thinking about how a HOCKEY TRADE might look, instead of a futures trade?

Draisaitl would obviously bring a LOT.

RNH and McDavid are the 2 centers to start with. You need wing scoring, goaltending and defense. So look at how many teams could give you that in mostly PROVEN NHL talent and still would love to add a young stud center.

Let's say you are Tampa and somehow lose in the 2nd round and need to maybe change things. Suppose the offer for Draisaitl is:

Point, Cirelli and Sergachev for Draisaitl . . . do you really hang up the phone on that without thinking long and hard?

Maybe St. Louis can offer Allen, Parayko and Schwartz.

Maybe Boston could offer Krejci, DeBrusk, Krug, etc . . .

Maybe Carolina offers Svechnikov, Teravainen and Pesce . . .

There are ways to reconfigure a team in a hockey sense that makes you at least think about these types of moves. You just missed the playoffs AGAIN, why is Draisaitl untouchable? RNH will not bring back what you need by himself.

A hockey trade like one of those also lets you trade down for a lower pick and another defenseman, like Fowler and the lower 1st could be used on Spencer Knight (heck, draft another goalie in the 2nd or 3rd round).

If you are okay with trying to reconfigure you could come out of this with a completely re-done, much more balanced lineup.

This:

The Blues package and the Bruins package are instant hard no’s. Jake Allen is garbage and negative value and Krejci is massively expensive.

Tampa wouldn’t offer that and even if they did how’s Edmonton supposed to afford that package going forward? Ditto the Carolina package. That’s what you’re missing. There is almost no package offered that is 1) affordable 2) worthwhile for Edmonton and 3) going to be reasonably put on the table.

Fowler and a pick? You’re out of your damned mind. That’s worse than anything Chiarelli ever did. B

 

[GhostOfWildWing]

Few packages for fun with the Ducks (assuming Kes/Eaves LTIRetire):

1)
Drai

for

Rakell
Silf
Steel

- Oilers get an entire second line, on great contracts.
- Ducks get a top-tier superstar C to replace Getzlaf for years to come and clear up some of their young winger logjam.

2)
Drai
Nurse

for

Lindholm
Rakell
2019 1st-round (ANA)

- Oil add a 30G+ winger, upgrade on LD to a true top-pairing presence, while saving substantial money. They also add another Top10 lotto pick in this year's draft.
- Ducks downgrade on D but still have a decent Top4 (Fowler, Nurse, Manson, Larsson) as along as the new coach plays more of a 'team D' style. Acquiring Drai speaks for itself and is explained above.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I think the best bet for the oilers would probably just to wait out a 3 year span of not being very good due to bad contracts. Trading good pieces to compete now just doesn't make sense for the franchise. Sure it sucks for McDavid an Draisaitl at this point. But losing one of the few actual building blocks they have to try and salvage a season or two of barely making the playoffs and getting bounced early surely doesn't make any sense. The two pieces they need to worry about being happy are locked up for a very very long time. The others who are in the NHL currently should be considered expendable if they just aren't happy with where the team keeps finishing.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Few packages for fun with the Ducks (assuming Kes/Eaves LTIRetire):

1)
Drai

for

Rakell
Silf
Steel

- Oilers get an entire second line, on great contracts.
- Ducks get a top-tier superstar C to replace Getzlaf for years to come and clear up some of their young winger logjam.

2)
Drai
Nurse

for

Lindholm
Rakell
2019 1st-round (ANA)

- Oil add a 30G+ winger, upgrade on LD to a true top-pairing presence, while saving substantial money. They also add another Top10 lotto pick in this year's draft.
- Ducks downgrade on D but still have a decent Top4 (Fowler, Nurse, Manson, Larsson) as along as the new coach plays more of a 'team D' style. Acquiring Drai speaks for itself and is explained above.

If you want Drai traded in division to the team most Oiler fans hate more than the Flames there’s going to be absolutely nothing left standing. I would not do either one, nor are they in any way remotely appealing.

 

[780il]

Few packages for fun with the Ducks (assuming Kes/Eaves LTIRetire):

1)
Drai

for

Rakell
Silf
Steel

- Oilers get an entire second line, on great contracts.
- Ducks get a top-tier superstar C to replace Getzlaf for years to come and clear up some of their young winger logjam.

2)
Drai
Nurse

for

Lindholm
Rakell
2019 1st-round (ANA)

- Oil add a 30G+ winger, upgrade on LD to a true top-pairing presence, while saving substantial money. They also add another Top10 lotto pick in this year's draft.
- Ducks downgrade on D but still have a decent Top4 (Fowler, Nurse, Manson, Larsson) as along as the new coach plays more of a 'team D' style. Acquiring Drai speaks for itself and is explained above.

Both of those are horrendous.

You don't have any assets that we'd trade Draisaitl for... None.

And that's not even factoring in that your in our division.

 

[justafan22]

Selling high on RNH is the smart play TBQH

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Selling high on RNH is the smart play TBQH

Not really. Trading him just opens up another hole and effectively ends McDavid and Drai permanently.

 

[780il]

Selling high on RNH is the smart play TBQH

Unless we get a better forward or a #1d back it really isn't...

We'd be adding to him for those things of course.

 

[Soundwave]

Yeah because the last time the Oilers traded their 2nd best player, it turned out so great.

STOP looking for stupid short cuts. Draft on the basis of skill. Stop losing trades or accepting "a package of lesser pieces for the best player in the deal".

 

[Jozay]

This is not the solution, brother.

 

[justafan22]

This is not the solution, brother.

then what is? They're capped out and don't have great prospects to deal.

 

[justafan22]

Unless we get a better forward or a #1d back it really isn't...

We'd be adding to him for those things of course.

That's the thing. If you can get a 1st pairing dman (think #2 level), it's a fair deal