Trade Proposals and Free Agency Thread - 2017 Edition Pt. II

[AppsSyl]

Judging by Babcock's comments about Bozak and his usage of him last night we may want to look at potential 3C candidates

Bjugstad
Flippula (did not waive his NMC to come here)
K.Hayes
Jarnkrok
Tierney

I still think we look at Shipachyov. We were rumored to be interested in Dadonov and him in the summer. He is a really good hockey player, and is decent in his own zone. His contract is comparable to that of Bozak and only 2 years.
Bozak's partial no trade probably doesn't allow him to be traded to Vegas, but moving him could be a separate deal. There are enough teams that need C's.

 

[realgoodleafs]

James Mirtle‏Verified account @mirtle Oct 26
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Question: What do the Leafs do at centre if they lose Bozak and don't want to move Nylander to 3C? Not much out there in 2018 free agency

I think Lars Eller is a UFA option. Doesn't put up many points but he's good defensively. Next year:

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Marleau Kadri Brown
Grundstrom Eller Marner
Martin Moore Kapanen

 

[Trapper]

I still think we look at Shipachyov. We were rumored to be interested in Dadonov and him in the summer. He is a really good hockey player, and is decent in his own zone. His contract is comparable to that of Bozak and only 2 years.
Bozak's partial no trade probably doesn't allow him to be traded to Vegas, but moving him could be a separate deal. There are enough teams that need C's.

From what I understand, Shipachyov is Bozak with less speed.
I'd much rather put Nylander to C and work in some of that winger depth we hear so much about.

 

[AppsSyl]

From what I understand, Shipachyov is Bozak with less speed.
I'd much rather put Nylander to C and work in some of that winger depth we hear so much about.

Shipachyov is A LOT more talented than Bozak.

 

[Trapper]

Shipachyov is A LOT more talented than Bozak.

That's great. So far not for the NHL.

 

[Brobust]

This team is really going to regret not selling high on Bozak and JVR.

 

[AppsSyl]

That's great. So far not for the NHL.

No offence, but he has played 3 games, and got seriously jerked around by Vegas, because he didn't require waivers. If you are judging 3 NHL games against his entire track record in the KHL and his international career with the Russian national team then I don't know what to say.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This team is really going to regret not selling high on Bozak and JVR.

How has their value gone down since the offseason? Teams still need guys like them regardless of the time and they still have to pay essentially for a full season.

 

[Brobust]

How has their value gone down since the offseason? Teams still need guys like them regardless of the time and they still have to pay essentially for a full season.

It's not just contract length, it's also performance.

They could have probably gotten 2 2nds for Bozak during the draft. Now they'll probably get an offer of Mark Letestu or some other garbage.

Bozak has been utter garbage and is dragging down his whole line.

 

[Trapper]

No offence, but he has played 3 games, and got seriously jerked around by Vegas, because he didn't require waivers. If you are judging 3 NHL games against his entire track record in the KHL and his international career with the Russian national team then I don't know what to say.

No I'm judging 524 games played by Bozak in this league vs a guy who has played 3. It's great what he's done in other leagues. Just because he's great there doesn't make it so here. Maybe he is getting jerked around. But from Vegas fans He's 30 years old and through preseason and now his performance hasn't been there. But you have 500 NHL vs. 3 as an upgrade. I don't know what to say.

 

[Brobust]

I wonder if Chiarelli could be duped into considering a JVR+Bozak+NHL ready prospect for RNH deal. Could be sold as a depth + cap clearing move.

Or just look at a change of scenery trade with Bozak for a centre who may also be struggling. Rutherford made similar deals the last two seasons for Hagelin and Daley. Possible candidates are Dubsinsky(salary retained), Bjugstad, Kevin Hayes, Sam Bennett.

 

[firstemperor]

Judging by Babcock's comments about Bozak and his usage of him last night we may want to look at potential 3C candidates

Bjugstad
Flippula (did not waive his NMC to come here)
K.Hayes
Jarnkrok
Tierney

I like Hayes the most out of that list.

I'm hesitant with Ship only because Bozak's line has sucked so much because of poor defensive play/possession the other way, and I think we need a C with an adequate cycle game to compliment Marner more.

Jarnkrok is probably going no where- good deal with a lot of upside + they got rid of Neal to protect him.

Bjugstad is a Tallon guy, which means he's probably going no where. Risky contract too. Wouldn't mind him but the risk on him is real with his play lately and that contract.

I think getting a strong C down the middle is as much of a necessity as a top 4 D right now. Even when Bozak's line wasn't slumping, they were horrible posession/play drivers going back to last year. If we want to be competitive, we can't afford that type of play anymore. Problem is, everyone in the league needs centers right now.

 

[firstemperor]

This team is really going to regret not selling high on Bozak and JVR.

Think they tried on JVR, at least with Hamonic. Maybe the market just wasn't there for him...

 

[Stephen]

I would consider trading Bozak straight up for futures and picks and prospects at this point because he doesn't help the present team one bit, and we could use the future assets to keep the machine going. But JVR and Bozak for RNH would be kind of interesting too.

 

[Trapper]

I would consider trading Bozak straight up for futures and picks and prospects at this point because he doesn't help the present team one bit, and we could use the future assets to keep the machine going. But JVR and Bozak for RNH would be kind of interesting too.

I would say the Rangers might be in buy mode for Bozak or a C very shortly.
Then we can either see what Aaltonen has or Willy to C.

 

[Budsfan]

Griffin Reinhart?

 

[Not My Tempo]

I still feel Duchene would be the perfect C for this team. His contract expires just as Marners and Matthews will kick in. Avs would want Lily though and there’s no way I’d give him up.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Griffin Reinhart?

He's not that good.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I still feel Duchene would be the perfect C for this team. His contract expires just as Marners and Matthews will kick in. Avs would want Lily though and there’s no way I’d give him up.

He's not really a center either. He should be a winger, and we don't need any more scorers. We need guys who can still do things offensively, but help us our defensively.

 

[Budsfan]

He's not that good.

He plays well at the AHL level but not as good in the NHL, big body but as he would sitting on the bench, your right pass on him.

 

[ToneDog]

Where are getting taveras money from? I’d Mitch rather the big 3 than the big 2 and taveras on $8m+ for 7 years at 28 years old. We can’t afford 4 forwards at $7m +

JT is a longshot at best. The big 3 are not getting $26M. Marner is certainly nowhere near getting $6M. With JVR, Bozak, Leo, Martin, Moore, Fehr coming off the books. they can make room for JT if they think he is part of the solution.

 

[Menzinger]

JT is a longshot at best. The big 3 are not getting $26M. Marner is certainly nowhere near getting $6M. With JVR, Bozak, Leo, Martin, Moore, Fehr coming off the books. they can make room for JT if they think he is part of the solution.

You'd be very hard pressed to find a contract comparison to Marner that has him getting less than 6 million. 10 rough games this season doesn't erase what happened last year.

 

[ToneDog]

Judging by Babcock's comments about Bozak and his usage of him last night we may want to look at potential 3C candidates

Bjugstad
Flippula (did not waive his NMC to come here)
K.Hayes
Jarnkrok
Tierney

Was calling for a significant upgrade on Bozak and keeping JVR last week. The ones you listed don't excite me although Bjugstad could be interesting. If they are serious about making a run they need to go hunting for a bigger game C.

 

[ToneDog]

You'd be very hard pressed to find a contract comparison to Marner that has him getting less than 6 million. 10 rough games this season doesn't erase what happened last year.

Hope you are right cause Mitch's play is concerning me to the point where we might have to start calling them the big 2 1/2.

 

[Trapper]

Was calling for a significant upgrade on Bozak and keeping JVR last week. The ones you listed don't excite me although Bjugstad could be interesting. If they are serious about making a run they need to go hunting for a bigger game C.

I still maintain moving both of them but keeping Bozak until we have an adequate game plan.
Either we've acquire a 3C.
We move Nylander to C.
We see how Aaltonen can do before we move Bozak.
We can't afford a center injury at the moment. Wingers we have.