Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Gearing Up for the Off-season Editon

[The Great Weal]

"Why should I compare Price to a similar goalie being paid similar money who had a similar season?". Because it's so obvious that Holtby actually had a defense in front of him and still sucked while Price only had Petry.

 

[The Great Weal]

And you say this because you think so or what?

Eye test? Biased eye test?

Because of everything I have seen throughout this season and what Caps fans have been saying for a fair amount of time.

 

[Belial]

Because of everything I have seen throughout this season and what Caps fans have been saying for a fair amount of time.

Great... And stats? What about those?

 

[montreal]

.920 isn’t good enoughy @ 10.5 million

agreed, but aside from this past season, since the lockout he's had save % of .927, .923, .933, and .934 so the the question is was it just an off year for him or say health problem vs can he get back to that level. We'll find out in a few months.

 

[The Great Weal]

They both suck. I’m not denying this. Eriksoon is also making 1.25 more
If you’re ok with Erikkson at 6million for 4 more years than surely you’re ok with Stasny at 7million for 4-5 year. He’s a better player and a centre
Btw I don’t want Stastny

No I am not. Both Alzner and Ericksson have negative value whereas signing a player to a horrific contract is creating ANOTHER negative value.

 

[The Great Weal]

Well seems to work with Alzner though...

I'm not only blaming Alzner, but he sure as hell did his part to ensure the Habs sucked. Don't get me wrong, Price was awful as well.

 

[The Great Weal]

Great... And stats? What about those?

Please tell me what Alzner does well.

 

[Zorba]

agreed, but aside from this past season, since the lockout he's had save % of .927, .923, .933, and .934 so the the question is was it just an off year for him or say health problem vs can he get back to that level. We'll find out in a few months.

I think price will bounce back. He’s too good not too
I just don’t want him to mask more holes. We need to add legit centres or just blow this team up

 

[Zorba]

Please tell me what Alzner does well.

Hired a good agent. Just like Loui. That’s All they do well

 

[montreal]

I think price will bounce back. He’s too good not too
I just don’t want him to mask more holes. We need to add legit centres or just blow this team up

I think Price bounces back but to what degree. As for adding legit centers vs blowing it up, don't think they will do either. They haven't been able to get legit centers and I think MB would have to be fired before he would blow up the team.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hired a good agent. Just like Loui. That’s All they do well

More teams had interest in Louis IIRC. But yeah, other teams didn't want to get stuck with an awful contract.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Please tell me what Alzner does well.

He’s a terrific pylon. He’s also good for taking a beating when he drops the gloves. Finally he’s a great every day reminder of our GM’s savvy business negotiation abilities.

 

[The Great Weal]

Having Alzner most definitely helps the tank, I'll give you that.

 

[Belial]

Please tell me what Alzner does well.

There's nothing this guy does well, he's a minute eater and never injured. He's just steady.

Will kill penalties and and do a decent job at preventing goals.

I mean maybe some of you had some crazy expectations or something... I knew what we got and I wasn't extremely disappointed.

The whole team looked like crap, and it's not a guy like Alzner that I would blame for this horrible season.

He was not good but he's not a difference maker, the team sucked because the top players sucked.

 

[Zorba]

I think Price bounces back but to what degree. As for adding legit centers vs blowing it up, don't think they will do either. They haven't been able to get legit centers and I think MB would have to be fired before he would blow up the team.

Then there’s no point in keeping Price or Weber.
This two are still terrific players but they’re in their 30s now
You either surround these guys with talent or you have to trade them for picks and prospects
We can’t wait 4 years to have a good team when you have these 2 guys. It’s win now or blow it up

 

[Michelangelo]

There's nothing this guy does well, he's a minute eater and never injured. He's just steady.

Will kill penalties and and do a decent job at preventing goals.

I mean maybe some of you had some crazy expectations or something... I knew what we got and I wasn't extremely disappointed.

The whole team looked like crap, and it's not a guy like Alzner that I would blame for this horrible season.

He was not good but he's not a difference maker, the team sucked because the top players sucked.

Paid $23M over 5 years to not be a "difference maker"

That's a solid investment for a guy that does nothing well, but being a minute eater and never injured

 

[The Great Weal]

You aren't a minute muncher when you are awful defensively and can't do the basics.

 

[Runner77]

From a money standpoint I wouldn't do it. Eriksson is owed 20M vs Alzner who's owed 16.625M so 3.375M more in salary and 1.375M in cap space per year (4 years) I wouldn't want another winger but he might be a good linemate for DLR in a 3rd line role.

It would depend on what other advantage we could pry by adding Eriksson. One for one wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Belial]

Paid $23M over 5 years to not be a "difference maker"

That's a solid investment for a guy that does nothing well, but being a minute eater and never injured

Again, you guys just see flashy plays and nice passes, it's the same with a guy like Plekanec.

Ohhhh he can't score anymore...He's trash!

Coaches have another idea.

 

[Belial]

You aren't a minute muncher when you are awful defensively and can't do the basics.

Scoring chances against:

Petry 596
Benn 550
Alzner 531

 

[The Great Weal]

Scoring chances against:

Petry 596
Benn 550
Alzner 531

Not sure what your point is. Perry was excellent this year, you couldn't ask him to do any more. Being the #1 dman and only top 4 dman will obviously result in some bad stats. And you won't get any argument from me with Benn, he was also awful. However, he doesnt have a brutal contract.

 

[Belial]

Not sure what your point is. Perry was excellent this year, you couldn't ask him to do any more. Being the #1 dman and only top 4 dman will obviously result in some bad stats. And you won't get any argument from me with Benn, he was also awful. However, he doesnt have a brutal contract.

Petry was good offensively but he was not so good defensively.

 

[The Great Weal]

Petry was good offensively but he was not so good defensively.

Agree to disagree. He was inconsistent, but more often then not he did his job defensively. Alzner just sucked all around.

 

[Belial]

Agree to disagree. He was inconsistent, but more often then not he did his job defensively. Alzner just sucked all around.

Sure man, just ignore stats and keep going.

 

[Habs100]

Would the Islanders give up one of their 1sts for Petry?

They got a 1st and 2 2nds for Hamonic.