HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Vachon23]

I don't know if you are getting 6th OV value with Matheson. Maybe a pick in 10-15 range. I think there is good value to extract if you retain money on his last 2 years. There is probably a contender team that would bite on a puck-moving defenseman in his prime with 2 years left at a discount.​

Don’t think either for the 6th oa, that’s why I originally said Geekie

 

[admiralcadillac]

I could see that.

Only problem is, Matheson has a M-NTC.

Who do ask in return?
Lawson Crouse?

Why would you trade Matheson? Why does everyone want to trade him lol? He literally played 3-4th most minutes per game in the nhl last year.

 

[Runner77]

I don't know if you are getting 6th OV value with Matheson. Maybe a pick in 10-15 range. I think there is good value to extract if you retain money on his last 2 years. There is probably a contender team that would bite on a puck-moving defenseman in his prime with 2 years left at a discount.​

Would Hughes even consider putting the guy on the market? Ex-client, 5-star human being, playing with his home team, limited vets on D, needs to buy some time until next wave of prospects arrives.

Who knows what Hughes promised him.

 

[Vachon23]

Why would you trade Matheson? Why does everyone want to trade him lol? He literally played 3-4th most minutes per game in the nhl last year.

Because:

- He’s at his peak value on the market
- He’s at a postion where we have young guys ready to take bigger minutes
- Go get a need with his value

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

I could see that.

Only problem is, Matheson has a M-NTC.

Who do ask in return?
Lawson Crouse?

I had the same thought. Crouse+ maybe.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Why would you trade Matheson? Why does everyone want to trade him lol? He literally played 3-4th most minutes per game in the nhl last year.

Because they have a surplus of LDs and he's 30 years old.

Hugues said at the end of season presser that he wouldn't go get an veteran RD because that would block the progress of their young RDs.
Keeping Matheson and extending him has pretty much the same effect on their young LDs.

So, if you take Hugues at his word, what would be the logic in keeping Matheson?

Of course, they don't have to trade him now, but eventually it will have to be done.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Where did Anderson go.

His ass is in Laval until he stops sucking

 

[skidcells]

I could see Kyrou being the target.

I think some type of conversations are/will happen between us and the blues. They had a scout at practically every Laval rocket game up to and after the trade deadline. Chiarelli himself scouted are farm club numerous times,

 

[Scriptor]

I don't know if you are getting 6th OV value with Matheson. Maybe a pick in 10-15 range. I think there is good value to extract if you retain money on his last 2 years. There is probably a contender team that would bite on a puck-moving defenseman in his prime with 2 years left at a discount.​

A contender team wil lnot be picking in the 6-15 range.

Matheson to NJ for the 10th, maybe? I don't think it would be enough for Matheson, IMO. However, I would offer Matheson + WIN 1st in 2024 VS #10 OA pick + Holtz.

Holtz, one of Lindstrom or Iginla with the 5th OA, plus one of Catton, Helenius, Eiserman, Sennecke, or Boisvert with the 10th OA pick.

Pack your bags and start heading towards Successville! The forward imbroglio has been addressed, with odds indoor favour of two of these studs becoming the real deal and one settling in as an excellent 3rd line player, for even more offensive depth.

Out: Matheson

IN: Holtz, Lindstro/Iginla, Catton/Helenius/Eiserman/Sennecke/Boisvert

Montreal signs a veteran, stop gap RHD on the UFA front during the offseason and Guhle returns to the left side as we wait for Reinbacher and Mailloux to mature.

Lindstrom - Dach - Holtz
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Newhook - Catton/Helenius - Roy OR Sennecke/Boisvert - Newhook - Roy
Xhekaj/Tuch - Beck - Kapanen
Heineman

Goals from 5 out of 6 guys on the top-6. Playmaking from Dach, Suzuki, Slafkovsky and, to a lesser degree, Lindstrom.

The third line can have many looks.

The fourth line can be a shutdown line with definite offensive upside.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

I hope the Habs don't trade for Necas.

He's going to cost a lot in terms of assets and then a contract.

While the Habs need players like him, it's almost certainly too much for a 50 point player who isn't really noticeable in the playoffs.

I've noticed his incredible diving capabilities.

 

[Leto]

A contender team wil lnot be picking in the 6-15 range.

Matheson to NJ for the 10th, maybe? I don't think it would be enough for Matheson, IMO. However, I would offer Matheson + WIN 1st in 2024 VS #10 OA pick + Holtz.

I was speculating on Matheson's value, not what trade I think would be plausible. Romanov managed to get us Dach via the 13 OV. I think Matheson's value is in this ballpark, hence the 10-15 range. That being said, I think Matheson would be more appealing to a team that is in contention, due to Matheson's respectable cap hit at 4.875m. At say 50% retained for 2 years, Matheson at ~2.44m is really good value for teams that are at the cap ceiling. I think a team with a pick in the 17-32 range might be tempted to package their pick and add other assets to make it work.​

 

[BLONG7]

Would Hughes even consider putting the guy on the market? Ex-client, 5-star human being, playing with his home team, limited vets on D, needs to buy some time until next wave of prospects arrives.

Who knows what Hughes promised him.

You are making, way too much sense here....

 

[Kimota]

I swear the Winnipeg pick is gonna become the new Halak, 2n pick + Ryder. And I'm guilty of this too.

BTW since the Predators are about to sign their goalie Saros longterm, I wonder what Askarov would cost.

 

[salbutera]

I swear the Winnipeg pick is gonna become the new Halak, 2n pick + Ryder. And I'm guilty of this too.

BTW since the Predators are about to sign their goalie Saros longterm, I wonder what Askarov would cost.

Jets 1st rounder + Halak + Ryder?

 

[417]

The idea of trading Matheson is that it would be trading on a high. He's on a good contract and just got a 60 point season.

But if Romanov was worth a 13th, I think Matheson should be worth more than a 15th.

It's fine to want to trade Matheson while his value is high, the problem is the majority of proposals being tossed around don't come close to the value he has on the Habs.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Wont happen but trading Matheson could be great for our future

Matheson to DET for 15th overall

Trade 15th overall + Jets pick to move up

We can leave the draft with Demidov/Lindstrom + Sennecke/Helenius/Eiserman or one of the top RD’s

 

[Zilo44]

Wont happen but trading Matheson could be great for our future

Matheson to DET for 15th overall

Trade 15th overall + Jets pick to move up

We can leave the draft with Demidov/Lindstrom + Sennecke/Helenius/Eiserman or one of the top RD’s

I would not hesitate one bit to pull this one, but do you think Detroit takes that?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I would not hesitate one bit to pull this one, but do you think Detroit takes that?

If not Detroit maybe another team with a mid round pick

 

[Habnot]

Wont happen but trading Matheson could be great for our future

Matheson to DET for 15th overall

Trade 15th overall + Jets pick to move up

We can leave the draft with Demidov/Lindstrom + Sennecke/Helenius/Eiserman or one of the top RD’s

Sure - let's reboot the re-build. Let's trade Suzuki while we are at it.

 

[Miller Time]

Sure - let's reboot the re-build. Let's trade Suzuki while we are at it.

It's both fascinating and mind boggling how many Habs fans want to see the team go the route of the Sabres and be in a constant state of "re-build"

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Sure - let's reboot the re-build. Let's trade Suzuki while we are at it.

Are we really comparing a 24 years old Suzuki to a 29 years old Matheson who doesnt know how to defend? Will he even still be with us in 2/3 years when we’re really ready to compete

 

[Tyson]

It's both fascinating and mind boggling how many Habs fans want to see the team go the route of the Sabres and be in a constant state of "re-build"

Insane right? While we are at it let's trade Guhle for a first rounder

 

[Habnot]

Are we really comparing a 24 years old Suzuki to a 29 years old Matheson who doesnt know how to defend? Will he even still be with us in 2/3 years when we’re really ready to compete

I got news for you - they better start competing next year - the honeymoon is over.

You don't go from bottom five to Stanley Cup. There is a natural progression.
- Challange for playoffs
- Make playoffs
- Lose a couple of years in 1st or 2nd round
- Start being a real contender for Cup

Without vets like Matheson - you never get to step 1. As Miller said, like Buffalo, Senators, Wings you are perpetually in non playoff mode.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If they could I'd inquire with LA to acquire Matt Roy, talk to him and see if he'd sign long-term and what he's looking for. If it works, get the paper work going for that trade and deal Savard to a team.

The Roy trade, unless it's coming with an 8th year is like a 4th, should be able to get a 1st for Savard, especially at 50% retained.

Habs now have their d still covered and improved and they now have 3 1st round picks they can pedal for a forward that doesn't include theirs.

 

[Scriptor]

If they could I'd inquire with LA to acquire Matt Roy, talk to him and see if he'd sign long-term and what he's looking for. If it works, get the paper work going for that trade and deal Savard to a team.

The Roy trade, unless it's coming with an 8th year is like a 4th, should be able to get a 1st for Savard, especially at 50% retained.

Habs now have their d still covered and improved and they now have 3 1st round picks they can pedal for a forward that doesn't include theirs.

Never getting a first for Savard. He'd have been gone at the trade deadline if that was the case.