HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[MarkovsKnee]

I think Hughes will packaged

Justin Barron (RHD are a premium)
WPG 1st round pick
MTL 2nd round pick

For a young top 6 forward around 22 years old.
I see someone like a Dawson Mercer

New Jersey really doesn't need D. They already have Bahl, Hughes & Nemec playing big minutes for them, while vets Hamilton, Marino & Siegenthaler all have long-term contracts. Don't see them having an interest in Barron at all.

They actually need depth players. Chris Tierney was their 3rd line center for a lot of last year & he sucks.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Yes if Mercer wasn’t up for a contract extension he would be worth more. Which is why we buying low. New Jersey locked up their core players Hughes Maier Hieshier Palat Bratt not much to spend long term for Mercer. Don’t forget Hughes brother dude for $7 mil soon.

Same situation with Colorado last year and Newhook.

Newhook was moved because he doesn't fit Bedar's style of play. Since NJ's idiot coach plays Mercer on the 3rd line he might not like him but I would think he would only be moved if they can't pay him.

 

[Kimota]

Guhle and Reinbacher are untouchable

Mailloux I would listen

I don't know, Mailloux not only has offensive skills but also bring that intimidation factor. He can hit, can fight. I want him in my line up.

You'll get picks and/or B prospects for Matheson, it's not worth it. When he's an impending UFA at the deadline, maybe we can get good picks and/or better prospects.

Maybe we could dangle Matheson but add other material with it and get someone decent?

 

[Kimota]

That’s going to be a tough call by Hughes.

What if he trades the wrong guy? Since you have to give to get and since he can’t keep ‘em all, I’m curious to find out who goes this summer.

Say we go for a hail Mary, with the amazing showing of Hutson on the left, we offer Ghule and Caufield for Brady Tkachuk.

Imagine our forward Top 6 with Slafovsky, Dach, Tkachuk and possibly Lindstrom. Mega Legion of Doom.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Buff has 2 number 1 OA in Dahlin and Power..............and it has done very little to move the needle.....doesn't make sense to me...............could they get better?? They certainly should be able to but haven't shown it yet.

Can you imagine this board, and we used TWO number 1 OA for Dmen? LOL

To be fair BUF has picked top 10 8 years in a row and the other 6 years I think they picked forwards

I agree they should be better but it does not change the fact that I don t see what they change in their top 4 and what the Habs can offer. Top 9 they have Thompson Cozens Quinn Peterka Tuch Skinner Benson Savoie which is very good on paper but having Benson Savoie likely means you ll need to keep Cozens Thompson Tuch Peterka not to be too small…

 

[Scintillating10]

To be fair BUF has picked top 10 8 years in a row and the other 6 years I think they picked forwards

I agree they should be better but it does not change the fact that I don t see what they change in their top 4 and what the Habs can offer. Top 9 they have Thompson Cozens Quinn Peterka Tuch Skinner Benson Savoie which is very good on paper but having Benson Savoie likely means you ll need to keep Cozens Thompson Tuch Peterka not to be too small…

They have a lot of skill

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fowler would not be one of my first candidates to be traded.

I like Monahan but Hugues said he wanted players that can play with pace. He's not exactly that. It's going a bit fast for him in the playoffs.
Maybe with a 2 year contract as a stopgap, but it won't happen.

No need to trade Armia. They have enough cap space and they need him on the bottom 6.

It's been debated already but i wouldn't trade for Zegras. Certainly not the 5OA pick.
But if you do, at least trade down before giving your 1st for him.
I'd bet Calgary would give a lot to get the chance to pick Tij Iginla.
Give a couple of pieces more, like maybe Barron and Dvorak (if he can be traded there with his m-ntc), and go get Rasmus Andersson to solidify the top 4.
But i'd rather they just pick Iginla, if Lindstrom is already gone.

I think that's a bit much for Laine at this point. I'd take a gamble, but not at that price.

Just a few options and just goes to show what options we can explore. We have loads of cap space and loads of assets to improve this roster.

Very curious to see what Hughes does this summer. I do expect a trade or two.

I would trade Armia to provide cap relieve. He had a good season and it's a good time to unload. Space needed for younger players as well as being for flexible with looming performance bonuses that Slaf may hit.

 

[Egresch]

I would trade Armia to provide cap relieve.

We do not need cap space this season and Armia turned out to be very useful player. 3rd line and PK specialist.

 

[morhilane]

New Jersey really doesn't need D. They already have Bahl, Hughes & Nemec playing big minutes for them, while vets Hamilton, Marino & Siegenthaler all have long-term contracts. Don't see them having an interest in Barron at all.

They actually need depth players. Chris Tierney was their 3rd line center for a lot of last year & he sucks.

Too many easily injured players on that team and that Meier's contract isn't looking good either.

But they don't need Ds that's for sure. They might want a Dvorak/Evans for their bottom 6. Dvorak would fit right in with his early injury...

 

[vokiel]

Maybe we could dangle Matheson but add other material with it and get someone decent?

Probably not in the off-season, unless the other material is a future with high potential. Teams will know if they need a Matheson around the TDL and he has one more season to go at 31 yo.

That said if the goal is just to trade him, there will be takers. I just don't trust we'll get much more than another reclamation project like Barron.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We do not need cap space this season and Armia turned out to be very useful player. 3rd line and PK specialist.

Cap space needs will depend on what we do this off season. With Armia, I do think Hughes tries to move him. He had a good season yes but he's inconsistent and it's a good time to move him for some form of value where we create even more cap space and also make room for the NHL ready prospects. I'd prefer to unload Gallagher and Anderson but that's too difficult

 

[DAChampion]

There are so many proposals involving Barron, but it may be that his trade value is negligible.

 

[vokiel]

There are so many proposals involving Barron, but it may be that his trade value is negligible.

Wavier eligibility is approaching, so worth is tending towards 0, throw-ins range.

 

[ReHabs]

Wavier eligibility is approaching, so worth is tending towards 0, throw-ins range.

He's not an established NHLer, he hasn't improved significantly, and any team that acquires him will be on the lower-half of the league table because playoff teams wouldn't readily add a borderline NHLer to their top6 if he didn't have any unique tools.

We got hosed on the trade. It happens.

 

[Vachon23]

I don't know, Mailloux not only has offensive skills but also bring that intimidation factor. He can hit, can fight. I want him in my line up.

He’s by far the less important in that list though

The 2 other are stud defensively

 

[Habs Halifax]

Maybe we could dangle Matheson but add other material with it and get someone decent?

Fans may have a different plan but I don't see the Habs trading Matheson until Hutson/Mailloux/Guhle show ability to QB the PP.

The Habs clearly want to move up the standings next year and Matheson on our PP is a big part of that plan.

 

[Miller Time]

There are so many proposals involving Barron, but it may be that his trade value is negligible.

That seems unlikely, even with his waiver eligibility expiring.

 

[Habs Icing]

Nope. f*** PLD. He ruined his own career. Let him be.

I don't want any anchor contracts after Gally and Anderson are gone. PLD or Huberdeau would be a problem in 4 years.

Damn! I wish I had ruined my career the way PLD did.

High 7-figure salary for almost a decade, in LA no less. With his looks, popularity, and money, he'll have every gold-digging ho (Bill Burr) after him.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Montreal could have traded Reinbacher to Philadelphia for Cutter Gauthier at last year's draft, and didn't. They're not trading Reinbacher.

They're also not going to trade Guhle.

Mailloux maybe, but I expect them to trade Barron, Struble or Harris long before the "big 3" on D. Savard has one more year on his contract. We can easily go into 2025-2026, with Guhle, Reinbacher & Mailloux on our right side. Left side is over crowded with Matheson, Hutson, Xhekaj, Struble & Harris.

Maybe he didn’t want to come to Montreal. I’m sure Hughes knew about it and given his penchant for young players, he didn’t go after him for a reason IMO.

 

[Pat Riot]

He's not an established NHLer, he hasn't improved significantly, and any team that acquires him will be on the lower-half of the league table because playoff teams wouldn't readily add a borderline NHLer to their top6 if he didn't have any unique tools.

We got hosed on the trade. It happens.

Too early to tell. We still havent use the 2rd draft pick we received in that trade.

 

[Habs Icing]

We dodged a bullet with PLD but somehow he keeps rearing his lazy carcass in this thread.

It's not PLD rearing his lazy carcass. It's that we have quite a few members on this board who practice voodoo.

 

[ReHabs]

Too early to tell. We still havent use the 2rd draft pick we received in that trade.

Obviously if the 2nd round pick turns out to be the next Kucherov, nobody is complaining. Be that as it may, Barron was a major part of the return and he's not developed as intended or desired and his trade-value is next to nothing due to the pending waivers issue. Lehkonen's been incredible for Colorado. They got what they wanted, but I don't think Hughes would do the trade again if he knew this would be the outcome.

 

[Habs Halifax]

There are so many proposals involving Barron, but it may be that his trade value is negligible.

Hughes kept 3 goalies to avoid loosing Primeau. I suspect if we can't move one of Harris or Barron this summer, he will manage it the same. Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux can easily start in the AHL.

Harris is one you put on waivers before Barron IMO. Harris has shown better ability to show maturity and puck management but Barron has that size/skating/shot power combo that is not easy to find. Barron is 22 and I bet you he becomes solid once he figures out the maturity part. If the offers are crap for Barron, I'd hold onto him for a while yet.

Our 8 D could be:
Matheson / Guhle
Xhekaj / Savard
Struble / Barron
Kova, Harris

However, I would ideally prefer this:
Matheson / Guhle
Struble / Savard
Xhekaj / Mailloux
Kova

Both Harris and Barron moved in a package to get a top 6F or in separate trades for picks to keep the draft power strong moving forward. If we get into injury trouble, we have Hutson and Reinbacher and Trudeau in the AHL.

Huston and Reinbacher playing in the AHL as a pairing is of value for me. I think we can go with 8D if we have too.

 

[DAChampion]

Damn! I wish I had ruined my career the way PLD did.

High 6-figure salary for almost a decade, in LA no less. With his looks, popularity, and money, he'll have every gold-digging ho (Bill Burr) after him.

Seven figure salary.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Obviously if the 2nd round pick turns out to be the next Kucherov, nobody is complaining. Be that as it may, Barron was a major part of the return and he's not developed as intended or desired and his trade-value is next to nothing due to the pending waivers issue. Lehkonen's been incredible for Colorado. They got what they wanted, but I don't think Hughes would do the trade again if he knew this would be the outcome.

Imagine giving up on Barron this early and trading him for peanuts where he turns into a top 4D with another team because he matures in the age 23-25 range like so many D men do in the NHL. That would hurt and we would be guilty of being impatient and desperate to make trades

We need to chill on D development. Barron has the rare size/skating/shot power and he's just late on the maturity scale... like so many others. Hold onto him for a while yet before we trade him for a low return.