HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Benstheman]

If Calgary are rebuilding we could trade them Anderson and they get back Florida’s first. That might work.

Anderson is negative value at this point, you have to pay someone to take him.

I was talking about Rasmus Andersson

 

[Deebs]

only 8 players over the last 10 years score more points then he did during his ELC. How is that overated?

There is arguments for not wanting Zegras but over rated its not a valid one

Zegras seems like a nice kid but I don't see him ready to bleed to win a game. I want those guys.

 

[Scriptor]

I get what you are trying to do here, but that top 6 would get run-over come playoff time. From what I've seen from Sharangovich, while not small, he isn't physical.

Thankfully Hughes seems to value size and speed, along with skill. I do love the potential of that third line.

That's why, if we are sure that we can get Lindstrom, the package he brings is better, for sure. Hypothetically, anyhow -- kid still needs to do it against adults in the pros.

Size and skill over just skill and zero physicality, you always choose size and skill.

 

[ReHabs]

Zegras seems like a nice kid but I don't see him ready to bleed to win a game. I want those guys.

I may be wrong but Zegras seems more of a stereotypical modern "chad" type than a pretty boy. I think he just needs to be unlocked and he'll deliver more. I don't think he's mentally frail, for instance.

Obviously the above is entirely speculative and baseless but it's just a vibe.

 

[BLONG7]

How about this idea: We keep all our pieces, and at the Deadline if we're in line for the Playoffs, we trade for: Sidney Crosby.

I think that Crosby has his eye on the Avs..............and his bud Mackinnon.
That said, wouldn't it be amazing to see 87 in Montreal!!!!!!!

 

[vokiel]

I think that Crosby has his eye on the Avs..............and his bud Mackinnon.
That said, wouldn't it be amazing to see 87 in Montreal!!!!!!!

Specially after drafting a certain Iginla..

 

[durojean]

Verbeek apparently let it be known this week he’s looking to add 2 big + physical elements:

A young top-4 RDman + RW


As just posted:

Verbeek apparently let it be known to is week he wants to add a big + physical young top-4 RDman and RW

Xhekaj and Anderson for Zegras ?

 

[Canadienna]

Xhekaj and Anderson for Zegras ?

That's a no from me.

Move Xhekaj at your own peril.

 

[BaseballCoach]

That's a no from me.

Move Xhekaj at your own peril.

Overvalue X much?

You would refuse to sell a guy that was undrafted and is a bottom pair D, plus unload a 3 year x 5.5M anchor contract, in exchange for the 3rd most productive player of the 2019 draft????

Verbeek would delete Hughes' number if he offered this, and yet it's too much for you!!

 

[Canadienna]

Overvalue X much?

You would refuse to sell a guy that was undrafted and is a bottom pair D, plus unload a 3 year x 5.5M anchor contract, in exchange for the 3rd most productive player of the 1999 draft????

Verbeek would delete Hughes' number if he offered this, and yet it's too much for you!!

Zetterberg?

Yeah that's a fair call out. I think you're right that the value is way off.

I'm just not interested in trading Xhekaj. Which probably is seen as silly in a utilitarian, asset value maximizing way if we were to turn down an offer like this.

What I probably should have said to that post was: if that's the ask for Zegras let's find a way to fit a different Dman in, even if we have to add some picks or something else.

 

[Nevins]

With such a trade, Montreal lands the 25-year old Sharangovich, who has shown he can be a scoring winger with 31 goals this season. He can also play any forward position and would provide security in case Dach proves to be injury cursed. Plus, he fits the demographics of the younger core.

Then, with the 9th OA pick, they are in the running for Eiserman, if nothing else. That would mean two scoring forwards added to the system.

I definitely like the potential to get 30+ goals, eventually, from Caufield, Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Sharangovich and Eiserman, plus 20 from Dach, Roy and Newhook.

I believe that Montreal can remain rather strong on the backend going forward, even without Guhle:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Eiserman - Dach - Sharangovich
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Tuch - Xhekaj - Coronato

Hutson - Reinbacher
Matheson - Engstrom
Xhekaj - Mailloux
Struble

I knew all that. I also made the possible lineup yesterday. That's why I wrote Not Sure....It's a tempting offer but to imagine losing Guhle (a future #1 or 2) and Lindstrom...It's something to think about as a team.

 

[Scriptor]

I knew all that. I also made the possible lineup yesterday. That's why I wrote Not Sure....It's a tempting offer but to imagine losing Guhle (a future #1 or 2) and Lindstrom...It's something to think about as a team.

There's just no certainty that we get Lindstrom at #5

 

[Lockin17]

Let's say Hughes puts a package like this.

WPG first #25 + Barron + AVS 2nd 2024 + Farrell

Would you want to go up in the Draft or get a player top 9.

Like going early mid first between #12 to #15
Or getting a player like Quinn or Holtz.

 

[ryan callahan]

Would anyone here do Anderson @4 mil + Barron + 26 + 2025 2nd + Tuch for Marner at whatever the Leafs need to make him to make the cap work? Feels like he'd be our missing piece in the top 6. Would work well with a bigger guy like Slaf or Dach. I don't actually think he gets traded but fun to think about.

 

[General Fanager]

That's a no from me.

Move Xhekaj at your own peril.

I love the guy too but my guess it within 2 years he will be stuck on the bottom pairing in Montreal. I think maybe moving him when his value might be the highest isn't necessarily a bad idea......

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Let's say Hughes puts a package like this.

WPG first #25 + Barron + AVS 2nd 2024 + Farrell

Would you want to go up in the Draft or get a player top 9.

Like going early mid first between #12 to #15
Or getting a player like Quinn or Holtz.

That's likely not enough for either, or to move up. Barron doesn't carry much value and neither does Farrell.

Would anyone here do Anderson @4 mil + Barron + 26 + 2025 2nd + Tuch for Marner at whatever the Leafs need to make him to make the cap work? Feels like he'd be our missing piece in the top 6. Would work well with a bigger guy like Slaf or Dach. I don't actually think he gets traded but fun to think about.

Toronto can get more easily.

 

[ryan callahan]

That's likely not enough for either, or to move up. Barron doesn't carry much value and neither does Farrell.

Toronto can get more easily.

Trade deadline Stone and Eichel didn't return that much either. We are strictly speaking about one year of Marner here.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Trade deadline Stone and Eichel didn't return that much either. We are strictly speaking about one year of Marner here.

What TDL Eichel?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Trade deadline Stone and Eichel didn't return that much either. We are strictly speaking about one year of Marner here.

Stone returned a top prospect, a 2nd and something else. There's no top prospect there.

Eichel returned Alex Tuch which is worth more than that offer.

So again, there's nothing there.

 

[ryan callahan]

Stone returned a top prospect, a 2nd and something else. There's no top prospect there.

Eichel returned Alex Tuch which is worth more than that offer.

So again, there's nothing there.

Brannstrom a top prospect? Lmao. And Eichel wasn't a rental either.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Brannstrom a top prospect? Lmao. And Eichel wasn't a rental either.

He was, if you followed things...

And so you just destroyed your own point by him not being a rental...

 

[ryan callahan]

He was, if you followed things...

And so you just destroyed your own point by him not being a rental...

Yikes. If you ''followed things'', you'd have known Brannstrom had subpar draft+1 and draft+2 seasons and was very much a depreciating asset (small defenseman without elite point production). And for Eichel the point was that star players don't often return as much as fans think they should. And Sabres fans were very disappointed with the return back then if you remember correctly. If you think you are a better ''evaluator'' of value, then tell me what should be a fair deal for one year of a star winger on a NMC. Also, you can use Hall as an example too.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Would anyone here do Anderson @4 mil + Barron + 26 + 2025 2nd + Tuch for Marner at whatever the Leafs need to make him to make the cap work? Feels like he'd be our missing piece in the top 6. Would work well with a bigger guy like Slaf or Dach. I don't actually think he gets traded but fun to think about.

Why give up assets for one year of Marner? I doubt he re-signs with the Habs, and the team will not be a contender next season even with him.

 

[themilosh]

Would anyone here do Anderson @4 mil + Barron + 26 + 2025 2nd + Tuch for Marner at whatever the Leafs need to make him to make the cap work? Feels like he'd be our missing piece in the top 6. Would work well with a bigger guy like Slaf or Dach. I don't actually think he gets traded but fun to think about.

You do not touch Marner.. he is a cancer to his team. soft soft soft.

 

[ryan callahan]

Why give up assets for one year of Marner? I doubt he re-signs with the Habs, and the team will not be a contender next season even with him.

Fair enough. Depends what is Hughes' perception of where the team's rebuild is at.