HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[BaseballCoach]

The Habs don't want to stay with 3 goalies for much longer, once they sign Monty, Allen is gone. Or they trade Monty because he's asking too much.

It's going to be before the deadline.

You might be right. If Allen casn actually get a good return, I think Kent will listen and mull it over.

 

[Tyson]

Every GM in the league knows the career inconsistencies of Jake Allen.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I hope they trade Montembeault and in the return get a goalie that is waiver exempt for the AHL.

 

[Miller Time]

Every GM in the league knows the career inconsistencies of Jake Allen.

Ditto Aidan Hill

 

[WeThreeKings]

Every GM in the league knows the career inconsistencies of Jake Allen.

Still better at his lows than anyone the Oilers have put in net for McDavid considering Mike Smith was 55 years old

 

[Scintillating10]

The Habs don't want to stay with 3 goalies for much longer, once they sign Monty, Allen is gone. Or they trade Monty because he's asking too much.

It's going to be before the deadline.

I doubt it. Primeau most likely to go. If he trades Allen, anything happens to Monty he has to go with rookie and AHL fodder. Hughes never tanked for Bedard, he's not going to tank never. Not in his makeup

 

[therocket9]

Every GM in the league knows the career inconsistencies of Jake Allen.

Yes but Allen has had good success in the playoffs 29 career games a .924% save percentage.

 

[Mrb1p]

If Edmonton loses McDavid they're going into a long rebuild.

I'd offer the next seven years of 1st rounders.

I wonder how many picks it would take, to be fair.

Lets say it's this at the 2025 draft, the Habs+Flames pick, the 2026 1st, the Habs and Pens 2nd and all subsequent picks in 2025.

Massive haul, but also massive gamble. Im thinking they'll want players of some kind back if they were to trade him. I don't see a way it works.

 

[ReHabs]

The Habs don't want to stay with 3 goalies for much longer, once they sign Monty, Allen is gone. Or they trade Monty because he's asking too much.

It's going to be before the deadline.

Who the hell wants Allen and his nearly 4m cap hit?

 

[DAChampion]

I wonder how many picks it would take, to be fair.

Lets say it's this at the 2025 draft, the Habs+Flames pick, the 2026 1st, the Habs and Pens 2nd and all subsequent picks in 2025.

Massive haul, but also massive gamble. Im thinking they'll want players of some kind back if they were to trade him. I don't see a way it works.

If McDavid is a pending UFA in two years and he wants to leave, that's the offer I'd send to Edmonton for a sign-and-trade: a 1st rounder for every single year of the contract.

Who the hell wants Allen and his nearly 4m cap hit?

Half this thread including a lot of my posts is dedicated trying to play pretend matchmaker with Edmonton and Calgary, but that probably doesn't work and can't work due to the decrepit state of those institutions.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Who the hell wants Allen and his nearly 4m cap hit?

It's not a huge cap hit but teams that need a goalie for the most part don't have cap space.
So how do Habs get rid of a goaltender without retaining salary? Trade Monty or take back similar cap to trade Allen. And with Allen the return might not be much. If they believe Monty can be a top 10-15 goalie in the league then move Allen if they can.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I doubt he's trading Allen, just gave him a big contract. Monahan and Savard my bets to be moved. Pearson too, he's taking a roster spot away from a young forward. Who can use the ice time. We can judge him better

It wasn't that big of a contract. He has another year.

Yeah, Pearson is gone at TDL for sure. He can still play as a defensive 3rd liner. Some team out there will value that.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Who the hell wants Allen and his nearly 4m cap hit?

It gets lower the closer we get to deadline. We can also take salary back. A team like the Kings might eventually bite.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Wouldn’t that simply recreate the Oilers current problem here ?

I’m all for giving him whatever salary he wants as an UFA ($12-15M ? done ! ) but if we need to trade Guhle, Dach & Caufield, yes we get the better player but would we really be a significantly better team after ?

Just feels lately that depth is almost as important during the playoffs run, all it takes is a cheap shot on your star and you’re out.

We had a great cup run but the 3 teams we beat were missing one of their top6 C.

Kind of, but the Oilers problem is less not having enough good depth and more consistently overpaying for bad depth.

I know you're referencing the cup run, but its pretty irrefutable proof that you need elite/star talent to win. I'm not saying Montreal should trade literally everyone, but finding talent on the edges is easier than getting a generational talent.

Its all moot, since its pretty unlikely that Edmonton will trade McDavid or that Montreal would have the best offer for him.

 

[habstradamus]

I am not in hurry to rid ourselves of a goalie. Wait till we get a good offer. Otherwise no reason to fix something that ain't broken.

 

[Sorinth]

I doubt he's trading Allen, just gave him a big contract.

The contract was signed well over a year ago and it was done well before Monty showed he can be an NHL level goalie.

 

[sampollock]

I am not in hurry to rid ourselves of a goalie. Wait till we get a good offer. Otherwise no reason to fix something that ain't broken.

I agree. Kent is not one to blink 1st. He is ice in his veins

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I agree. Kent is not one to blink 1st. He is ice in his veins

He just tilts his head so the lights bounces off his head right into their eyes and then goes..

GOTCHA, BITCH

 

[ReHabs]

It gets lower the closer we get to deadline. We can also take salary back. A team like the Kings might eventually bite.

Genius GM Kent Genius Hughes the Genius GM gave Allen a raise AND another year

I’d bet nobody wants Allen or his contract.

 

[Jaynki]

Genius GM Kent Genius Hughes the Genius GM gave Allen a raise AND another year

I’d bet nobody wants Allen or his contract.

I agree with you ReHabs its not a good contract at first look. But there is only one year left on his deal.

It dont hurt us because the term is low and easily absorbale.

MSL was on record saying that Allen won't be here to profit from the shadow of the three he planted.

In other words, they got him on the backside of his career and explicitly stated he won't be here when we will be ready to truly compete.

Thats f***ing tough and Allen has swallowed the pill and has bringed in a positive attitude in all of this.

I think that is the reason why they "massively" paid him. I think its simply good business as Allen is a valuable pieces in the rebuild, he sucks and he is a good vet.

 

[Jaynki]

Kent Johnson has been sent to the AHL a couple of days ago.

He had 40 points in the NHL in his D+2.

What could we give for him? He is a crafty player with a nice shot and very nice mitts, a bit soft tho.

I would totally get him as a LW/C for a Dach type of trade.

 

[Frankenheimer]

Would anyone trade future considerations for Huberdeau and a Calgary first like we did with Monahan?

 

[The Great Weal]

Would anyone trade future considerations for Huberdeau and a Calgary first like we did with Monahan?

No. That term is a nonnegotiable for any trade involving him.

 

[Frankenheimer]

No. That term is a nonnegotiable for any trade involving him.

yeah, its bad, just wondering how many assets Calgary would have to add before a team made the deal.

 

[Sorinth]

Would anyone trade future considerations for Huberdeau and a Calgary first like we did with Monahan?

I think the only way we take that contract is if we are getting a top-5 pick out of it and dump one of our own crappy contracts. And that just doesn't seem like something Calgary should do.