Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - LI

[thestonedkoala]

Guerin is not going to tank on purpose. The moves he has made/not made may make it seem like it and very well might end up with us getting top 5 picks, but he has visions of this team being competitive during this roster make-over and isn't going to sell the farm for futures.

He's a damn fool then. Dvorak + Rask + Eriksson-Ek + Sturm/Gaudreau isn't enough to put this team over the hump. Plus he's dumping assets for what reason? Greenway should be traded for either a prospect or a pick, not a 25 year old center.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Only deals we can make is sending Fiala out for a center.

 

[MNNumbers]

He's a damn fool then. Dvorak + Rask + Eriksson-Ek + Sturm/Gaudreau isn't enough to put this team over the hump. Plus he's dumping assets for what reason? Greenway should be traded for either a prospect or a pick, not a 25 year old center.

That's not the right lineup.
Dvorak - Rossi - Ek - Sturm/Gaudreau

A 25 year old center who is better than anything more in our pipeline, and would be under team control for 3-4 more years is definitely an asset.

 

[57special]

He wouldn't be cheap and there would need to be either salary going back to ARI or they would have to retain.

I'm terrible at this exercise, but maybe something like Greenway + 2022 1st (protected)?

Sounds good to me. Maybe a C prospect like Marat rather than a protected 1st would make more sense. I don't know what they have in goalies now that they have moved Kuemper, not that we have anything of note besides Wallstadt.

 

[thestonedkoala]

That's not the right lineup.
Dvorak - Rossi - Ek - Sturm/Gaudreau

A 25 year old center who is better than anything more in our pipeline, and would be under team control for 3-4 more years is definitely an asset.

Where's Rask? As much as the Wild fanbase hate him, Evason and Guerin more than like him. More so, Rossi isn't ready.

 

[MNNumbers]

Where's Rask? As much as the Wild fanbase hate him, Evason and Guerin more than like him. More so, Rossi isn't ready.

I'm not talking about Day 1, 2021. I'm talking about April 2022 and Day 1, 2022. So, you start 2021 with Rask in the lineup, and you work toward Rossi having and bigger and bigger role as the year goes on.

Any re-build or re-tool has to look ahead at least a little way, right?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Guerin is not going to tank on purpose. The moves he has made/not made may make it seem like it and very well might end up with us getting top 5 picks, but he has visions of this team being competitive during this roster make-over and isn't going to sell the farm for futures.

Lol, I'm not sure 'failing his way' into a top 5 pick is any better. Not trying to be a smarta$$, just made me chuckle the way you phrased it. And I totally agree....he may very well have created the first top 5 pick the Wild have ever had....by not trying to get one.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Oh so maybe he wasn’t just a 4th line signing? Also, does that mean he’s penciling Boldy in Iowa or do they see Gaudreau as a C? I know Russo said something along the lines of him coming in to play wing for us?

 

[thestonedkoala]

Oh so maybe he wasn’t just a 4th line signing? Also, does that mean he’s penciling Boldy in Iowa or do they see Gaudreau as a C? I know Russo said something along the lines of him coming in to play wing for us?

Boldy is probably going to start in Iowa. I can't shake this feeling that Guerin doesn't like Boldy.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Oh so maybe he wasn’t just a 4th line signing? Also, does that mean he’s penciling Boldy in Iowa or do they see Gaudreau as a C? I know Russo said something along the lines of him coming in to play wing for us?

Wonder if he is just gonna try to stack Iowa this year with all of our prospects. Not sure if it would be anything except confidence and chemistry boosting

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Wonder if he is just gonna try to stack Iowa this year with all of our prospects. Not sure if it would be anything except confidence and chemistry boosting

I get that feeling too.

 

[TaLoN]

This is why a holdout was far too early to be concerned about as I mentioned recently. Now a holdout is pretty much off the table.

 

[HobeyBroten]

Lol, I'm not sure 'failing his way' into a top 5 pick is any better. Not trying to be a smarta$$, just made me chuckle the way you phrased it. And I totally agree....he may very well have created the first top 5 pick the Wild have ever had....by not trying to get one.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think we're going to be close to a top 5 pick. Maybe 12-22ish, but there are FAR worse teams out there than us, even with the roster as it stands now. I expect us to be our typical bubble team - first round loss unless a handful of the kids step up.

 

[MNRube]

Whatever we do, I hope if we suck we can do it during the 2022-23 season. Adding Bedard or Michkov to our franchise would be huge

 

[DeagleJenkins]

I get that feeling too.

I’m not gonna claim it’s a terrible choice as the nhl roster is gonna have a ton of turnover. Just feels odd at the moment

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Stacking the AHL to build up the next team would at least feel like a plan. Not sure how that fits in with Kaprizov's timeline but at least its a plan.

 

[keppel146]

Oh gosh. If we’re placing them all in IA, then it’s going to be a long year

 

[grimmel95]

Oh gosh. If we’re placing them all in IA, then it’s going to be a long year

Not sure I understand why it would be a long year if they are all placed in IA. None of these prospects were on the big club anyway and we took Vegas to game 7. Essentially we lost Parise (4th liner/press box ) and Suter (top 4 dman) from the current team. I can't see us being a ton worse but I also don't see us being much improved either.

 

[keppel146]

Not sure I understand why it would be a long year if they are all placed in IA. None of these prospects were on the big club anyway and we took Vegas to game 7. Essentially we lost Parise (4th liner/press box ) and Suter (top 4 dman) from the current team. I can't see us being a ton worse but I also don't see us being much improved either.

Because we played half our games against teams like AZ, LA, SJ and Ana. It will be interesting how teams stack up when they play everybody in the league again.

 

[Bonin21]

Whatever we do, I hope if we suck we can do it during the 2022-23 season. Adding Bedard or Michkov to our franchise would be huge

Come on, you know a Minnesota team that matters is never going to win the lottery in a year like that.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Not sure I understand why it would be a long year if they are all placed in IA. None of these prospects were on the big club anyway and we took Vegas to game 7. Essentially we lost Parise (4th liner/press box ) and Suter (top 4 dman) from the current team. I can't see us being a ton worse but I also don't see us being much improved either.

Why does everyone forget that Vegas was without Patches when we played them? More so, they scored 20 goals vs Minnesota's 13. It wasn't even close.

 

[grimmel95]

Because we played half our games against teams like AZ, LA, SJ and Ana. It will be interesting how teams stack up when they play everybody in the league again.

come on...Vegas and Colorado also played half there games against AZ, LA, SJ and ANA and we were only a few pts behind those 2 teams. I'm not saying we should be in the same category as them but we're not a bottom feeder team either. We'll do what we do best --> not good enough to contend but not bad enough either to get a top 5 pick.

 

[GuerinUp]

Why does everyone forget that Vegas was without Patches when we played them? More so, they scored 20 goals vs Minnesota's 13. It wasn't even close.

well, -4 of those were while suter was on the ice

-3 were while parise was on the ice

 

[Spurgeon]

Not sure I understand why it would be a long year if they are all placed in IA. None of these prospects were on the big club anyway and we took Vegas to game 7. Essentially we lost Parise (4th liner/press box ) and Suter (top 4 dman) from the current team. I can't see us being a ton worse but I also don't see us being much improved either.

And Soucy and Cole

 

[Wasted Talent]

Oh so maybe he wasn’t just a 4th line signing? Also, does that mean he’s penciling Boldy in Iowa or do they see Gaudreau as a C? I know Russo said something along the lines of him coming in to play wing for us?

Looks like Evason just said "it could be an option" because they've played together before, nothing as conclusive as the tweet would suggest.