Dreger: Toronto poking around Matt Murray

[exporta]

Toronto makes such interesting decisions sometimes.

They haven't made any decision other than an insider saying they are doing their homework.

I always find it odd when people criticize an organization for a move they haven't made

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Matthews relative to the term, and he gave in to Nylander's demands.

Or his wonderful UFA 2021 class of Mrazek and Ritchie. Hasn't had much room to overpay anyone else with the bloated 4, but damn has he tried

80 points for 6.9 million is an underpayment

 

[HockeyVirus]

The idea of Dubas sitting around thinking “Murray + Mrazek = Stanley Cup” is both hilarious and believable at the same time.

Clearly what he is thinking....

 

[JKG33]

80 points for 6.9 million is an underpayment

Doesn't matter, he still caved in to Nylander's demands

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Doesn't matter, he still caved in to Nylander's demands

and by doing so he got him on a bargin.

There are A LOT of reasons to want Dubas fired, the Nylander contract is not among them

 

[joepeps]

Doesn't matter, he still caved in to Nylander's demands

Chirelli caved to leon and bis 8.5 when he was worth 6 at the time

 

[Rob Brown]

and by doing so he got him on a bargin.

There are A LOT of reasons to want Dubas fired, the Nylander contract is not among them

It's amazing how much people love to talk about the Leafs and comment on shit from years ago and give their opinions, despite always telling us how sick they are hearing about the Leafs.

 

[JKG33]

Chirelli caved to leon and bis 8.5 when he was worth 6 at the time

Comparing Dubas to Chia for your argument is all that needs to be said.

But hell, even Chia managed to put together a cup winner.

 

[shortfuze]

Matthews relative to the term, and he gave in to Nylander's demands.

Or his wonderful UFA 2021 class of Mrazek and Ritchie. Hasn't had much room to overpay anyone else with the bloated 4, but damn has he tried

Nah. Matthews and Nylander were fine. 5 year deals were normal after elc.

 

[SomeDude]

Waiting for the official news that Murray is month to month after being poked at.

 

[Reddwit]

To Ott: #8, #105
To Det: Murray, #7, #39

To Tor: Murray @ 50%
To Det: Mrazek, ‘23 1st (likely #25 or later)

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Anderson + 7th for Matthews

 

[bert]

Waiting for the official news that Murray is month to month after being poked at.

hahaha Would be the best news the sens could have.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Major oof. How about we go after someone, you know, good?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Matthews relative to the term, and he gave in to Nylander's demands.

Or his wonderful UFA 2021 class of Mrazek and Ritchie. Hasn't had much room to overpay anyone else with the bloated 4, but damn has he tried

ah yes, those were the only free agents the Leafs signed as I recall

 

[Gilles Meloche]

Murray for Mrazek

Not sure which is worse Murray for Mrazek or a Murray/Mrazek duo

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

I was gonna suggest Sens could add an ambulance as a sweetener, but I just realized Mrazek would most likely have to be going the other way.

 

[Coachcorner]

Murray, Matt would totally be another steal by dubas just like bunting etc The maple leafs is really doing things and moving things now. Hard. Murray is a bonafide leader and stanley cup winner lately. He that good googly moogly.

 

[Cotton]

Doesn't matter, he still caved in to Nylander's demands

No he didn't, Nylander wanted 8.5 per, he got 6.9

 

[TS Quint]

80 points for 6.9 million is an underpayment

Not how it works. Nylander will be overpaid for his whole contract regardless of points because he never deserved the money relative to his performance at the time of his signing. The best you can say about the contract is the Leafs got lucky.

No he didn't, Nylander wanted 8.5 per, he got 6.9

And I’m sure Dubas wanted $4M. It’s called negotiation and Dubas got taken to the wood shed.

 

[Brew]

They haven't made any decision other than an insider saying they are doing their homework.

I always find it odd when people criticize an organization for a move they haven't made

Stupid people typically speak the loudest.

 

[Cotton]

Not how it works. Nylander will be overpaid for his whole contract regardless of points because he never deserved the money relative to his performance at the time of his signing. The best you can say about the contract is the Leafs got lucky.


And I’m sure Dubas wanted $4M. It’s called negotiation and Dubas got taken to the wood shed.

6.9 for an 80pts player = taken to the woodshed.

Lemme guess, hockey is like your third favourite sport. And you're a little hazy on what offsides is, and boy it's hard to track the puck. Gtfo.

 

[Akrapovince]

Very afraid of what we are sending with Murray to Toronto or what Toronto is sending back for Murray.

There is no world where I have any confidence in a deal between Dubas and Dorion involving Murray where Ottawa comes out ahead.

 

[The Management]

Very afraid of what we are sending with Murray to Toronto or what Toronto is sending back for Murray.

There is no world where I have any confidence in a deal between Dubas and Dorion involving Murray where Ottawa comes out ahead.

I think it could easily come out looking bad for either team, to be honest.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

I could very easily see a Murray for Mrazek swap, with Ottawa retaining salary 40% to bring the cap hit to be the same as Mrazek.

Ottawa has the cap space, so they'd still have the 6.25M$ hit, however they'd be saving considerable hard cash.

2022/2023: Mrazek (4.2M$) vs. Murray (7M$) = 2.8M$ savings for Ottawa
2023/2024: Mrazek (4.4M$) vs. Murray (8M$) = 3.6M$ savings for Ottawa