Proposal: Toronto - Nashville *Offseason*

[CatchyTune]

You spelled 2nd line winger wrong.

no, i didnt.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

You spelled 2nd line winger wrong.

He actually spelled "45-point winger, once in Nashville" wrong.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

It'd make more sense for the leafs to be dealing futures + Andersen for Saros than the other way around. The Preds probably realize they aren't cup contenders and would more likely take futures than deal them off.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You spelled 2nd line winger wrong.

Calling Nylander a 2nd line winger is like calling John Tavares a #2 center

 

[CatchyTune]

It'd make more sense for the leafs to be dealing futures + Andersen for Saros than the other way around. The Preds probably realize they aren't cup contenders and would more likely take futures than deal them off.

i'd love to trade for Saros but Andersen is a UFA so he cant be in the deal

 

[CatchyTune]

He actually spelled "45-point winger, once in Nashville" wrong.

not saying that would happen, but would that really be his fault? Going from Auston Matthews and John Tavares to Matt Duchene?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

i'd love to trade for Saros but Andersen is a UFA so he cant be in the deal

Meant to offset salaries and gives Nashville a goalie for the rest of the season

 

[CatchyTune]

Calling Nylander a 2nd line winger is like calling John Tavares a #2 center

Calling Nylander a 2nd line winger is calling everyone on Nashville a 2nd liner. Because Nylander would be leading Nashville in points.

 

[CatchyTune]

Meant to offset salaries and gives Nashville a goalie for the rest of the season

...its passed the trade deadline

 

[Joel Ward]

Nope. Askarov is a very intriguing prospect but probably isn't going to be an impact player during Matthews' current contract/Tavares' prime.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

...its passed the trade deadline

well in the offseason I guess

 

[CatchyTune]

well in the offseason I guess

yeah thats when i meant, but then Freddy couldnt be there because he is a UFA. he is a non factor.

if Saros were made available in the offseason i would love to see the Leafs target him

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

yeah thats when i meant, but then Freddy couldnt be there because he is a UFA. he is a non factor.

if Saros were made available in the offseason i would love to see the Leafs target him

That's basically impossible as we have nobody else for the 3-4 seasons til Askarov is ready.

 

[Amadeus]

That's basically impossible as we have nobody else for the 3-4 seasons til Askarov is ready.

We have cap space to sign a replacement or better than that, re-sign Hyman and Rielly to long term deals.

No doubt Willy will be missed though but I value Askarov really high and he could be ready sooner than that timeframe.

 

[Menzinger]

Pass from the Leafs.

They can turn to free agency to improve goaltending in the offseason.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Value isn't bad but not sure I see Nashville selling Askarov.

They're in a weird spot where their top players are in their prime, but they're not nearly good enough to contend.

 

[Space umpire]

Calling Nylander a 2nd line winger is like calling John Tavares a #2 center

I forgot, all leaf players are 1st liners. Neither Tavares nor Nylander see the opponents top defensive matchups because they are not on the top line.

 

[Space umpire]

Calling Nylander a 2nd line winger is calling everyone on Nashville a 2nd liner. Because Nylander would be leading Nashville in points.

LOL!

 

[vipera1960]

All GM's are not 'fans' they make trades to help their teams win immediately (rebuilds included), never for the long term future, because, they may not have a future with that team if they arent successful.
if a top line young player is offered for a goalie 4 years away at best, the GM will make that deal 99 times out of 100.
the only reason they may not is if they just signed a long term deal themselves.
and when the only roster player you are giving up has a career high 30 pts and is older than the player you are getting its a no brainer.
these are the type of deals that get the GM trading the young player get fired over.
even if the goalie becomes the next super goalie, it wouldnt be for 4-6 years, so, there will likely already be a new Gm and coach in place by then for both teams.

Poile’s like 75 and has already (literally) lost an eye for the team. I’m willing to bet his moves are more aligned with best interests of the franchise vs. not getting fired.

 

[mydnyte]

Poile’s like 75 and has already (literally) lost an eye for the team. I’m willing to bet his moves are more aligned with best interests of the franchise vs. not getting fired.

my statement was a generalization of how the majority of all GM's do their dealings. ...there are always exceptions to the rule.

Nylander for example would be the best offensive player Nashville would have seen in a while, and if they could land him, i have no doubt they would try, especially if it doesnt cost any valuable roster pieces.
Saros is young enough to play 10 more years before a decline, so, i doubt any goalie with starter potential would want to sit and wait, if Saros has a Rinne type tenure.
Nylander can play C, but, it stifles his offense (which seems to fit Nashville's style ), but, he is best served as a winger

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

my statement was a generalization of how the majority of all GM's do their dealings. ...there are always exceptions to the rule.

Nylander for example would be the best offensive player Nashville would have seen in a while, and if they could land him, i have no doubt they would try, especially if it doesnt cost any valuable roster pieces.
Saros is young enough to play 10 more years before a decline, so, i doubt any goalie with starter potential would want to sit and wait, if Saros has a Rinne type tenure.
Nylander can play C, but, it stifles his offense (which seems to fit Nashville's style ), but, he is best served as a winger

Nylander isn't as good as Forsberg. I would anticipate the usual ding to Nylander's production that any player gets coming here. So he'd be about a 40-50 pt winger in Nashville, which isn't significantly better than our other current top-6 wingers either. That's not worth paying $7M for, and that's not worth giving up one of our core future building blocks just to get 3 seasons from while we're in a mini-rebuilding phase.

Toronto shouldn't do it either, of course, they're already trying to contend right now today, so why trade a contributing top-6 winger in the middle of a contention window for an unknown futures piece. Toronto fans are certainly right to reject the proposal also. But no need to overrate Nylander's value to another team whilst doing so.

 

[shortfuze]

I forgot, all leaf players are 1st liners. Neither Tavares nor Nylander see the opponents top defensive matchups because they are not on the top line.

Nylander and Tavares are 1st liners. If you choose to look at it different that’s up to you. No need to get defensive about it though.

 

[vipera1960]

my statement was a generalization of how the majority of all GM's do their dealings. ...there are always exceptions to the rule.

Nylander for example would be the best offensive player Nashville would have seen in a while, and if they could land him, i have no doubt they would try, especially if it doesnt cost any valuable roster pieces.
Saros is young enough to play 10 more years before a decline, so, i doubt any goalie with starter potential would want to sit and wait, if Saros has a Rinne type tenure.
Nylander can play C, but, it stifles his offense (which seems to fit Nashville's style ), but, he is best served as a winger

So you’re saying just some random hypothetical GM who wouldn’t in any way be involved in this potential deal. Got it.

 

[Patagonia]

Values are close and believe a reasonably good proposal. NSH would likely decline due to cap issues.

 

[Space umpire]

Nylander and Tavares are 1st liners. If you choose to look at it different that’s up to you. No need to get defensive about it though.

So Matthews and Marner are the 2nd line?