Confirmed Trade: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retained), 2023 3rd round pick, 2024 7th round pick for future considerations

[Junohockeyfan]

5x5 Id rather pick up anyone over that term and that aav. sorry I just dont believe in him enough to give starters money. maybe 2x5m I could live with but no way with his play last year did I think he's worth 5x5.

With the cap going up, 5 x 5 isn't that bad. Its far better than 4.7M x 2 for an unreliable injury prone goaltender who's been trending downward the past 4 years. Duba shat the bed on trading for Murray.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Leafs can’t sign anyone though. Aren’t they at 50 contracts?

Let alone cap space issue even with Murray on LTIR….

They can recall one of the two other goaltenders they have under contract.

I believe they can use an "emergency recall" to avoid putting Murray on LTIR.

Edit: Just learned that one of two was injured last night and the other one was loaned to an European club. Tough luck...

 

[Golden_Jet]

They can recall one of the two other goaltenders they have under contract.

I believe they can use an "emergency recall" to avoid putting Murray on LTIR.

Kallgren left last nights game, The other goalie went back to Europe.
They need to sign a university goalie for 1 game tonight.

 

[Sparksrus3]

It's not 1 game, the sample size is 5 seasons with the same issues that have gotten progressively worse. His athleticism is poor, that leads him to drop early on the shooter and he has issues raising his left shoulder. Everyone in the league knows it

Even my kindergarten class knows

 

[Connor McConnor]

Murray injured? No way. Who could have seen this coming?

 

[Advanced stats]

It's hilarious seeing Sens fans chirp when they literally have their starting goalie down and out for a while

 

[armani]

Noballsitis is a chronic injury for Murray.

 

[Petes2424]

We all knew Dubas flipped a coin on Murray. It’s going to be Samsonov’s team this year. It was just whether it starts today or it was a month from now. Who they going to go get? Aiden Hill or Brossoit from Vegas?

Still go back to Husso. Think both the Leafs and Edmonton thought he’d hit UFA and both had to change things up quickly when Detroit screwed up their plans. Oilers had a backup plan, Leafs seemed to panic and almost immediately went after Murray.

I certainly didn’t believe Campbell was worth a 5 year deal but would’ve felt better with that deal than Dubas deciding instead to hinge a Cup window year, and his job, on Matt Murray.

All we can hope for is Samsonov takes this and runs with it. Once again, flipping a coin of hope.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

It's hilarious seeing Sens fans chirp when they literally have their starting goalie down and out for a while

What do you mean, Forsberg is healthy.

 

[NyQuil]

It's hilarious seeing Sens fans chirp when they literally have their starting goalie down and out for a while

You have been misinformed regarding the depth chart of the Senators.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

You have been misinformed regarding the depth chart of the Senators.

Also, there is a big difference between a guy who has historically been very healthy and carried the load vs a guy who has had, what, 30 minor injuries in the last 4 years?

 

[cyris]

I think that's where the ATO comes in. That's not a long term solution though. Kallgren was injured last night, Woll on season opening IR, the Leafs have no other goaltenders available to them. If Murray's situation drags on, it will be a difficult situation to manage.

It’s really not that difficult.
Trade out a prospect the team has lost faith in for future considerations. Sign one of the goalies we have on an AHL to an NHL deal.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It’s really not that difficult.
Trade out a prospect the team has lost faith in for future considerations. Sign one of the goalies we have on an AHL to an NHL deal.

You assume other teams are looking to use contract slots on castaways.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

I hated this move with the asterisk/caveat that it could be decent if Samsonov isn't horrible and Murray craps the bed, get's "injured", sent to LTIR island and free's up his cap until we trade ???.

 

[cyris]

You assume other teams are looking to use contract slots on castaways.

It’s happened before. Someone will take a flyer on guy like Joey Anderson and see if they can get something out of him.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It’s happened before. Someone will take a flyer on guy like Joey Anderson and see if they can get something out of him.

It’s certainly possible. And they’ll find a way to work it in out, for sure.

 

[Golden_Jet]

It's hilarious seeing Sens fans chirp when they literally have their starting goalie down and out for a while

Pretty sure he’s starting tonight, backup is out, and that sucks.

 

[Leaf Fans]

According to @BlueBaron if you don’t think the Leafs are amazing, you’re a hater and the entire world is out for them.



You’re right. It’s one game.

One game > past five years

You got the first part correct.

 

[34]

This move by Dubas had a foul odor to it as soon as it went down.

 

[SensBrawler]

It's hilarious seeing Sens fans chirp when they literally have their starting goalie down and out for a while

Based on DJ Smith's interview at the beginning of training camp, I think the plan was always for Forsberg to be the starter for the Sens. He earned the job last year and was one of our MVPs for most of the season. Talbot was brought in as insurance since Forsberg only has one really strong season under his belt. Sens have been burned by one year wonder goalies in the past and Talbot is a proven goalie who would be a lot more reliable as a backup than Gustavsson.

 

[Vitto79]

This move by Dubas had a foul odor to it as soon as it went down.

I just don’t know how he didn’t get 50 off

 

[Eggtimer]

The loser is the manager who built this garbage roster.

I wouldn’t say the roster is garbage . There is a lot of talent on it . It’s just that it is the wrong “ type” of talent and it isn’t spread out the most ideal way.
Im seeing it with my Devs now . We have talent ( not as much as the Leafs, but still a decent amount ) and it has got us nowhere. We have a bunch of water-bugs on forward , inexperienced D and no one really that hood defensively . We play a perimeter game and if the other team shuts down the neutral zone and negates the rush … it’s game over . Way too easy to play against.
Winning isn’t as simple as out- talenting the other team .
Oh , and our goaltending has been garbage , and I can see where it might be for the Leafs as well . Only difference is that the Leafs have the ability to outscore teams even with shitty goaltending

 

[leafsfan5]

….does Murray come with a warranty

 

[Leaf Fans]

Matt Murray injured?
Who could have possibly predicted that?

Any one could have. He has had injury problems.

 

[Jared Dunn]

You assume other teams are looking to use contract slots on castaways.

I think someone will take Simmonds now that he's cleared but Leafs won't rush a move with him