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How did Patrick Roy beat Dominik Hasek?
Because it’s about playoffs?How did Patrick Roy beat Dominik Hasek?
Even for those who consider Hasek the best goalie ever, its hard to argue that Roy isn't the best playoff goalie of all time.How did Patrick Roy beat Dominik Hasek?
Better question is - how is Hasek even top 5? HF is a joke. May as well add Forsberg to the voting options next...
Because it’s about playoffs?
I took the question as which goalie played better in the playoffs, not which goalie played for better teams in the playoffs. Hard to argue against Hasek when you consider their play separated from team success.Even for those who consider Hasek the best goalie ever, its hard to argue that Roy isn't the best playoff goalie of all time.
How did Patrick Roy beat Dominik Hasek?
Roy has a conn smythe from each of the 80s 90s and 00s. Hasek has [checks notes] zero conn smythes. It isn’t really a discussion.I took the question as which goalie played better in the playoffs, not which goalie played for better teams in the playoffs. Hard to argue against Hasek when you consider their play separated from team success.
I don't think its fair to attribute Roy's success only to playing on better teams. Yes, he did play on better teams, but he was a massive part of the success of all of those teams. The Habs cup team probably isn't the cup champions without MVP caliber goaltending from Roy in net. They probably don't make the Finals against to Calgary if Roy isn't playing MVP caliber in net either. The Avalanche team probably couldn't have bested some of the other powerhouse teams in the West (Detroit and Dallas) at that time if they don't have an MVP caliber goalie in net. Hasek played brilliantly for some far lesser teams, that's true. But being the best playoff goalie has to have results behind it too.I took the question as which goalie played better in the playoffs, not which goalie played for better teams in the playoffs. Hard to argue against Hasek when you consider their play separated from team success.
See the discussion in the first poll. Roy played in a higher scoring era than Hasek (he started in the mid 1980s). Taking the scoring environment into account, Roy had a higher save percentage than Hasek in the playoffs, and he maintained that over a much larger number of games.I took the question as which goalie played better in the playoffs, not which goalie played for better teams in the playoffs. Hard to argue against Hasek when you consider their play separated from team success.
And Igor’s is .929, that is not a good argument by itself. I’ve got Brodeur and Dryden ahead of Hasek for sure.Hasek has a .925 save percentage in the playoffs. He's, at-worst, 2nd on this list.
And Igor’s is .929, that is not a good argument by itself. I’ve got Brodeur and Dryden ahead of Hasek for surenHasek has a .925 save percentage in the playoffs. He's, at-worst, 2nd on this list.
Probably not 2nd.Price is at .919, where do he ends up?
Hasek is exactly where he should be.Neither should Hasek tho
Hasek is exactly where he should be.
His resume in the playoffs holds up against anybody with the exception of Roy.
I don't know where this idea came from that Dominik Hasek wasn't Dominik Hasek in the playoffs.
I win six Cups in goal for that team.Because if we're talking Playoffs Success, what's the arguement against Ken Dryden, a guy that has 6 Stanley Cup?
I win six Cups in goal for that team.
No disrespect to Ken Dryen who absolutely has the statistical basis to back up his success, and should absolutely be in the top 3 here, but "which of these goalies played on the best teams?" isn't an interesting poll.
People are forgetting how bad the Sabres teams were that Hasek took on deep runs. They made Lundqvist's Rangers teams look like Team Canada.
You generally have to win the Cup to win the Conn Smythe. Which team was Hasek winning the Cup on the first nine years of his career?Dryden also has 1 Conn Smyth, versus 0 for Hasek