Proposal: Tony DeAngelo
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MrazeksVengeance
VENGEANCE
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Pay, but don’t overpay. I think Tony MIGHT BE WILLING TO PICK “LESS GREEDY” OPTION GIVEN THE PAST OFF-SEASON.
Also, LET’S SEE HOW THE GREAT UNWANTED ONE PERFORMS IN PLAY-OFFS.
I have hope he gets some MOTHERFU^KING VENGEANCE.
Also, LET’S SEE HOW THE GREAT UNWANTED ONE PERFORMS IN PLAY-OFFS.
I have hope he gets some MOTHERFU^KING VENGEANCE.
Nikishin Go Boom
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He can go to arbitration off this season and I could see a decent 1 year deal taking him to UFA.
Nikishin Go Boom
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that is probably what happens. With Morrow looking well on his way to becoming TDA's replacement, we should go 1 year with TDA and then let Morrow take over in 23-24. Just means we need to find a good 3RD this off-season or next.
So... Kill him.. it's the only way to be sure.
WreckingCrew
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Let's cross that bridge when we get there, right now Morrow is 19 playing in college...expecting him to come over and immediately replace TDA would be foolish. He wouldn't be the first kid to impress in college then fall flat in the NHL, development has a long way to go.
Nikishin Go Boom
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nah, the bridge is already crossed. Im mean he has Makar level comps. Shoot we need to trade Freddie this off-season. Kochetkov already has Vas comps.
just reexamine next off-season if Morrow falls flat and isnt ready for 23-24.
AhosDatsyukian
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2 years $4m/year makes a lot of sense for both sides. More decent money for TDA and he stays in a GREAT situation for him to seriously cash in as a UFA in 2 years (I'm sure teams will see 3 years with no issues and be comfortable with him). By then Morrow should be ready. Not as much of a steal for us as this year obviously but he's still definitely worth more than 4 on the ice.
Keep both....having two PP quarterbacks positions the team very nicely.
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Hamilton QBPP
2019-2020: 22.3% (21.6% before he broke his leg)
2020-2021: 25.6%
DeAngelo QBPP
2021-2022: 22%
Anyway, I still don't know what to do with TDA. Banking on prospects coming in and replacing NHL'ers..."Drayson Bowman and Zach Boychuck are coming!" killed that for me. TDA's anger issues make him scary on a longer term real money deal. But he'll probably take the deal the front office offered Hamilton (that they knew he would never accept), and it's not as if there are any free agents raring to go...
Is Chychrun a PP qb? Would Arizona go for a deal around Necas?
2019-2020: 22.3% (21.6% before he broke his leg)
2020-2021: 25.6%
DeAngelo QBPP
2021-2022: 22%
Anyway, I still don't know what to do with TDA. Banking on prospects coming in and replacing NHL'ers..."Drayson Bowman and Zach Boychuck are coming!" killed that for me. TDA's anger issues make him scary on a longer term real money deal. But he'll probably take the deal the front office offered Hamilton (that they knew he would never accept), and it's not as if there are any free agents raring to go...
Is Chychrun a PP qb? Would Arizona go for a deal around Necas?
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Borsig
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TDA 4.5 AAV 3 years is a steal.
Svechhammer
THIS is hockey?
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Let Smith walk, and maybe see if Cole is willing to re-up for another year. Bring up Chatfield full time, and explore some trade options that include Bear.
TDA is awesome, I'd love to have him in the fold for the next few years, but we can't break the bank for it. He's an excellent 3rd pairing defenseman who plays QB on our top PP unit, which allows him to collect a hell of a lot of points. If we can get him to re-up at 2 years $4.5m per year, that's perfect, otherwise just accept arbitration and take next offseason as it comes.
IMHO, our biggest need this offseason is someone who can play alongside Slavin. If we think that can be TDA going forward, great. If not, then we need to find someone who can, because it ain't Bear, that's for sure.
TDA is awesome, I'd love to have him in the fold for the next few years, but we can't break the bank for it. He's an excellent 3rd pairing defenseman who plays QB on our top PP unit, which allows him to collect a hell of a lot of points. If we can get him to re-up at 2 years $4.5m per year, that's perfect, otherwise just accept arbitration and take next offseason as it comes.
IMHO, our biggest need this offseason is someone who can play alongside Slavin. If we think that can be TDA going forward, great. If not, then we need to find someone who can, because it ain't Bear, that's for sure.
Borsig
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Svechhammer
THIS is hockey?
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TDA? Off and on the second half of the year, but I'm not sure that's what we ideally wanted, but more because the other option was either Bear or Smith
Bear came down with Covid after the November 20th game in L.A. DeAngelo got that role in his absence and never let go of it, save for his injury. All total, they played together for about half of a season's worth of games.
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I dunno. I'd keep him on short term deals, 2 years, 3 maybe. Treat it as another Semin situation. Someone who you want to keep around, but also want to be able to easily get rid of in case other issues occur. Keep him always playing for a new contract and never too comfortable in his situation. Because that's when problems are most likely to occur.
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Let's see which version of TDA shows up in the playoffs before committing lots of time/$$$ to him. Who knows, this guy could blow up (in a good way) and we want to lock him in for 5 years, or he could blow up (in a bad way) and we qualify him and try to trade his rights away. I think he's going to move toward the former, but who really knows...playoff hockey is a different animal. We need more data on this guy.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
Couple of things....I'd think the front office is going to try and stay away from 2 year deals this off-season. We've got too many important pieces coming up for new contracts. I'd think TDA get's his 1 year arbitration deal and then whatever happens, happens.
Morrow's going to play at least a partial season in the AHL following college is my guess. I'd like to see Anttoni Honka come over and get a year w/Chicago to see what we've got there. He's as likely to replace Tony as a PPQB as Morrow IMO. I'm also pretty high on Ronan Seeley who is likely to find his way to Chicago next season. While not a QB, he'll be someone to watch.
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I'm not saying that it's not possible, but there's two big counterpoints to it:
1. No one in their right mind should actually plan to actually go through an arbitration hearing with their player, because it's gonna sour the relationship when the player hear you telling why he shouldn't be paid. Opting for arbitration in itself is a good strategy, but mainly because it sets a date by which there is an SPC to be signed and puts some pressure to get a voluntary one negotiated before the hearing,
2. It's stupid to just take the player's hand and walk him into UFA so he can auction himself to all the teams with more cap space than sense, when you hold the cards today to buy one or more UFA years at a somewhat bargain price off him. If he's not willing to sell, that's another thing, but you should at least try.
1 would obviously further amplify the 2.
Nikishin Go Boom
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I see your point on the 2 year contract thing. If I ran the show, I would be giving out as many 2 year deals as possible. Next off-season, only Fast, Staal, the goalies, and Gardiner are coming off the books. Staal is almost undoubtably staying, Fast should be an easy keep decision. They only tougher situation is the goalies. After that is handled, we should spend the entire rest of the off-season trying to re-sign as many as we can.
I would give Necas a two year bridge. Then we decide which two of Turbo, Necas, and Jarvis we keep long term on the right side as 1RW and 2RW. try to get at least one of the two re-signed in 22-23
Re-signing Aho after 22-23 would be the priority
Try to re-sign Pesce after 22-23.
I let Skjei walk unless Seeley, Nishikin, or another young defender isnt ready for the NHL in 23-24. So no need to worry about re-signing him.
Then we see what the cap is in 23-24 and re-sign everyone else we need to and fill out the roster in the 24 off-season.
Borsig
PoKechetkov
No way TDA gets an arbitration deal. He has CLEARLY bought into Rod's culture and system. You don't carry him one year on some arbitration contract, sour the guy you literally salvaged and who might just feel like he belongs and might just give you a friendly deal.
You lock him up for 3 years if you can. This go to arbitration then let him Get away when he fits, and is reasonably priced is nonsense. He earned his spot. He held up his end of the deal.
Morrow Morrow Morrow.
Morrow could be Bowman or Boychuk for all we know.
You lock him up for 3 years if you can. This go to arbitration then let him Get away when he fits, and is reasonably priced is nonsense. He earned his spot. He held up his end of the deal.
Morrow Morrow Morrow.
Morrow could be Bowman or Boychuk for all we know.
Negan4Coach
Fantastic and Stochastic
Agree. I do miss the 155mm slinging in from the blue line tho
