The women's basketball elite 8 gets 100 times the coverage of the mens hockey final 4. And that doesn't point badly at the women's basketball but more a comment that I hardly see any coverage of this hockey championship.
Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02
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Hockey is Not a head count sport sport
Head count sports rule supreme in NcaA athletics
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BC are the overwhelming favorites but BU edge out Michigan for #2. Denver is gonna be a tough matchup for BU though
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it means full ride scholarships for entire team, and they are monitored. 85 scholarships, 85 players
It’s what 98% of the NCAA’s resources go into monitoring
Basketball, football for men
Volleyball, gymnastics, basketball for women
Hockey is an equivalency sport, with 16 scholarships that they spread out over the 28 man roster.
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Why does that matter in the context of sports popularity? I don’t understand NCAA
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Tryamkin was a half assed player with no desire to be the best he could be. It's good he went running home when he did. He didn't have the heart or dedication to play in the NHL.
Sorry Vector ... as for Willander, pretty hyped to see how he evolves next year. Could really be a huge piece for us.
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It is a different world Basketball and Football.I learnt something today.
The money is not even in the same universe.
Michigan football probably makes more from a home game than the entire NcAA division 1 hockey does in a year.
NCAA only cares about monitoring those sports to make sure you got your money through NIl deals, illegal recruitment, transfer ports rules
Hockey is sooooooooo irrelevant in the NCAA
This was was a photo I got from from Deion sanders kid when I was out in Boulder
These are what these football and basketball players are living like in school now
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you don't think deion sanders can afford to buy his kid a nice car?
(not that i don't think there's rampant corruption in div 1 football/basketball, but the son of an nfl legend probably isn't the best example)
Carson Beck the starting QB for Georgia got a Lambo from a dealership (likely just leased to him) but that’s a sizeable 5 figures a month worth.
NIL for hockey players is going to be pretty minimal. Even the best ones like a Kariya if he was 18 now would be nothing compared to a QB at a big program like if they both went to Michigan, OSU, ND, for example.
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shadeur made $5.7 million in NIL deals from google, topps, under armour, Gatorade, bang and olufsen
NCAA hockey is closer to what university/college sports are supposed to be all about. Players get full-ride scholarships to some good schools; and I guess the program earns a few bucks from tickets and concession sales. And I suppose they might get a little from TV revenues.
But at the other extreme is NCAA football, where head coaches make as much as $8m a season; and well heeled alumni running Fortune 500 companies, throw massive wads of money at the good old alma mater. The alumni associations also raise millions for the football program. And of course the NCAA television rights probably put even the NHL to shame.
"Amateur athletics" is certainly isn't. And it seems there's an 'under the table' recruiting scandal every single season. But nobody really questions the godzillian amount of dollars that major universities put into their football program. It's 'un-American' to question it, I guess.
But at the other extreme is NCAA football, where head coaches make as much as $8m a season; and well heeled alumni running Fortune 500 companies, throw massive wads of money at the good old alma mater. The alumni associations also raise millions for the football program. And of course the NCAA television rights probably put even the NHL to shame.
"Amateur athletics" is certainly isn't. And it seems there's an 'under the table' recruiting scandal every single season. But nobody really questions the godzillian amount of dollars that major universities put into their football program. It's 'un-American' to question it, I guess.
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Combine my ass that was all on Hutson
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That was a Myersesque turnover. I guess Willander is at fault for not knowing Hutson was going to have a brain fart.
Wallinder went behind the net to give Hutson an outlet but Lane blindly let it go and it was picked off.
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Both his minuses are not his fault, he just stepped on the ice, hustled back, lifted the guys stick and took the passing play away. Puck just right went through the goalie.
Next year he won't need to babysit a rover, let's see what he does as the man on D.
Next year he won't need to babysit a rover, let's see what he does as the man on D.
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It's a bad, careless pass by Hutson, right? A Denver player has closed that lane and Hutson shouldn't be trying to pass the puck through him. So then, why did Willander drift into and stay in that lane, when it's been closed?
He didn't make himself a good passing target; he coasted backward away from his isolated teammate and lost the opportunity to help out in any potential puck possession battle; and he abandoned the most dangerous scoring area. That Hutson made a terrible pass doesn't change the fact that Willander made a bad decision to go where he did.
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Don't see it this way at all. The puck was coming around the boards. Hutson stops it, then tried a no-look pass that he partially whiffed on, and put it right on the guys' stick. Willander was expecting the puck to be thrown into the corner for him to chase down. It wasn't his check that got open for the goal, it was Hutson's. Hutson made the bad play, and didn't pick up a man.
As someone else said, it was a Myersesque giveaway, and nobody can prepare for that kind of stupidity.
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The only worse thing Hutson could have done in that position would have been to blindly put it in the slot himself. All he had to do was put a little air under it and off the boards towards Willander's corner. He put it right on the guys stick softly. Generally you can't play the game assuming your d partner is going to do the dumbest thing possible with the puck.
This is terrible analysis based on hindsight. Willander drifts behind the net because Hutson could move the puck immediately, but he instead delays by a second or so and then tries to force the original play anyway. Willander immediately spots the danger in front of the net and tries to recover, which he actually does a pretty good job of by forcing a lower percentage attempt than if the Denver player could have pulled the puck to the far post for an essentially empty net. Expecting players to be prescient at all times is ridiculous, and this kind of stuff happens to the best dmen in the world multiple times per game.
Second goal also wasn’t a bad change at all, just sloppy puck management from the forwards high in the o zone.
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It's definitely not on Willander as he was in the right spot to chase down the puck in the corner if Hutson moved it right away around to his side.
However, once that didn't happen, he should have gone straight to the front of the net instead of waiting behind the opposing player hoping that the pass would eventually get through.
Some blame also goes to that forward in the high slot that decided to inexplicably turn around and look towards the offensive zone when he saw his D-man was in the corner with the puck and his back turned about to get pinched. He should have instantly darted to cover the front of the net once he saw there was no other teammate there to do so.
How he ever thought the puck would eventually get to him if he headed towards the blueline at this point is simply baffling.
So the main culprit is Hutson for the bad turnover but a little structure and IQ from his teammates could have made it a nothing play.
However, once that didn't happen, he should have gone straight to the front of the net instead of waiting behind the opposing player hoping that the pass would eventually get through.
Some blame also goes to that forward in the high slot that decided to inexplicably turn around and look towards the offensive zone when he saw his D-man was in the corner with the puck and his back turned about to get pinched. He should have instantly darted to cover the front of the net once he saw there was no other teammate there to do so.
How he ever thought the puck would eventually get to him if he headed towards the blueline at this point is simply baffling.
So the main culprit is Hutson for the bad turnover but a little structure and IQ from his teammates could have made it a nothing play.
Agree that none of the goals were his fault. That said, lately his play has not been as good as it was at other points in the year. Maybe it's nerves or a minor injury, he's still being physical and skates well and doing fine but there hasn't the urgency and pace and sharpness that's needed at this time of year to really make a difference, and you would hope he can be a difference maker at this level. There are also some minor mistakes creeping into his game that are not a good look.
I'd thought earlier in the year if he continued developing rest of the year he could play in NHL after this year, but he would definitely benefit from another year at BU.
I'd thought earlier in the year if he continued developing rest of the year he could play in NHL after this year, but he would definitely benefit from another year at BU.
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