leeroggy
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- Jan 3, 2010
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Sure. we are all pretty depressed right now . . .
And the possibility of cleaning house during or right after the season is a possibility NONE of us thought remotely possible back in September . . . but might now be a real future . . .
Bringing in a new GM and Coaching Staff . . . and might that new GM decide to go with his own blueprint . . .
We own the 1st overall pick . . . is Nolan Patrick pretty much the only player to consider?
Certainly looks the part. Not sure of his defensive skills but he seems a lot like Kopitar to me or maybe a less abrasive version of Getzlaf.
Not a bad piece to build around.
But here's the really unthinkable part . . . what if the new GM decides the best thing to do is not go JT / Patrick down the middle but decides to trade JT? What possible package could we envision that might make sense? Certainly not just draft picks and prospects.
And please, before we get too far into this . . . like 99%+ of you I don't WANT to trade JT and I know he'd like to stay here . . . but this is an exercise in rebuilding, not a true 'we have to do this' thread.
So, let's go with the following potential lineups for 2019-2020 with the following names already filled in and let's see where we can go with a potential trade(s) that makes sense . . .
Patrick
Ho-Sang
Dal Colle
Barzal
Beauvellier
Leddy
Boychuck and Ladd (unless we can find a way to unload them but those contracts don't look movable)
Pulock
Pelech
Sorokin and Greiss in goal
(I'm going to assume that we lose DeHaan in the expansion draft)
Since it is 2019-2020 we assume that we do not have Grabo, Kulemin, Chimera and Seidenberg
Trade Bait besides JT
Hamonic
Bailey
Lee
Cizikas
Nelson
Strome
Hickey
Clutterbuck
Prince
So, here's the game . . .
Find a package that JT can be traded for that includes ONLY current NHL talent and AHL players. No draft picks and no one still in junior hockey.
Then see if there are any current players we can trade from the Trade Bait section and see what they could return . . . no limits on NHL/AHL/Junior/Draft picks.
If you want to include/keep someone from the Trade Bait pile go ahead and do so, but limit it to two players so you are forced to make some changes.
Design your lineup . . . again, remember that this is for 2019-2020.
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Okay, so here is my pie in the sky . . .
JT offers
To Anaheim for Hampus Lindholm and Richard Rakell
To Carolina for Justin Faulk and Jeff Skinner or Jordan Staal
To Colorado for Gabe Landeskog and Tyson Barrie
To Columbus for Brandon Saad and Zach Werenski or Seth Jones
To St. Louis for Colton Parayko and Jaden Schwartz
You get where I am going with this . . . a Top 4 or higher defender and a top line winger for Patrick.
Now, for the Colorado trade it would look like this:
I'll take Clutterbuck and Cizikas off the Trade Bait list and slot them in on the fourth line
I'll also offer Hamonic, Lee and Nelson to the LA Kings for Toffoli and Martinez
That leaves Strome, Bailey and Hickey as trade material for the 3rd line wingers
Strome to Dallas for Brett Ritchie? Bailey and Hickey to Calgary for Mikael Backlund?
Landeskog - Patrick - Toffoli
Dal Colle - Barzal - Ho-Sang
Backlund - Beauvillier - Ritchie
Ladd - Cizikas - Clutterbuck
Leddy - Boychuck
Pelech - Pulock
Martinez - Barrie
Sorokin and Greiss as the goalie tandem
Obviously a lot of moving parts but we might as well have some intellectual challenge besides just looking at mock drafts . . .
And the possibility of cleaning house during or right after the season is a possibility NONE of us thought remotely possible back in September . . . but might now be a real future . . .
Bringing in a new GM and Coaching Staff . . . and might that new GM decide to go with his own blueprint . . .
We own the 1st overall pick . . . is Nolan Patrick pretty much the only player to consider?
Certainly looks the part. Not sure of his defensive skills but he seems a lot like Kopitar to me or maybe a less abrasive version of Getzlaf.
Not a bad piece to build around.
But here's the really unthinkable part . . . what if the new GM decides the best thing to do is not go JT / Patrick down the middle but decides to trade JT? What possible package could we envision that might make sense? Certainly not just draft picks and prospects.
And please, before we get too far into this . . . like 99%+ of you I don't WANT to trade JT and I know he'd like to stay here . . . but this is an exercise in rebuilding, not a true 'we have to do this' thread.
So, let's go with the following potential lineups for 2019-2020 with the following names already filled in and let's see where we can go with a potential trade(s) that makes sense . . .
Patrick
Ho-Sang
Dal Colle
Barzal
Beauvellier
Leddy
Boychuck and Ladd (unless we can find a way to unload them but those contracts don't look movable)
Pulock
Pelech
Sorokin and Greiss in goal
(I'm going to assume that we lose DeHaan in the expansion draft)
Since it is 2019-2020 we assume that we do not have Grabo, Kulemin, Chimera and Seidenberg
Trade Bait besides JT
Hamonic
Bailey
Lee
Cizikas
Nelson
Strome
Hickey
Clutterbuck
Prince
So, here's the game . . .
Find a package that JT can be traded for that includes ONLY current NHL talent and AHL players. No draft picks and no one still in junior hockey.
Then see if there are any current players we can trade from the Trade Bait section and see what they could return . . . no limits on NHL/AHL/Junior/Draft picks.
If you want to include/keep someone from the Trade Bait pile go ahead and do so, but limit it to two players so you are forced to make some changes.
Design your lineup . . . again, remember that this is for 2019-2020.
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Okay, so here is my pie in the sky . . .
JT offers
To Anaheim for Hampus Lindholm and Richard Rakell
To Carolina for Justin Faulk and Jeff Skinner or Jordan Staal
To Colorado for Gabe Landeskog and Tyson Barrie
To Columbus for Brandon Saad and Zach Werenski or Seth Jones
To St. Louis for Colton Parayko and Jaden Schwartz
You get where I am going with this . . . a Top 4 or higher defender and a top line winger for Patrick.
Now, for the Colorado trade it would look like this:
I'll take Clutterbuck and Cizikas off the Trade Bait list and slot them in on the fourth line
I'll also offer Hamonic, Lee and Nelson to the LA Kings for Toffoli and Martinez
That leaves Strome, Bailey and Hickey as trade material for the 3rd line wingers
Strome to Dallas for Brett Ritchie? Bailey and Hickey to Calgary for Mikael Backlund?
Landeskog - Patrick - Toffoli
Dal Colle - Barzal - Ho-Sang
Backlund - Beauvillier - Ritchie
Ladd - Cizikas - Clutterbuck
Leddy - Boychuck
Pelech - Pulock
Martinez - Barrie
Sorokin and Greiss as the goalie tandem
Obviously a lot of moving parts but we might as well have some intellectual challenge besides just looking at mock drafts . . .
