There is a scarce list of players who have had both more goals and assists in the same season as Kucherov has this year, and it is really telling.

[Crosby2010]

Kucherov has had a spectacular season, and as good as he is I am not sure he was anyone's pick to almost certainly win the Art Ross. But there is a scary and scarce list of players that have had both more goals in a season as him and more assists in the same season. And while I don't ignore a 141 point season it really brought it home when you see this list. So here it is:

Gretzky in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
Lemieux in 1989 and 1988* (as of now with two games left for Kucherov Lemieux had more goals but an even number of assists in 1988)

That's it, nine times. And the 10th time is a tie with two games left. That is just utterly incredible.

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[Crosby2010]

Would this be more appreciated in the History of Hockey section? I figure something that happens in 2024 would get moved to the main board anyway so that's why I posted it here. But really, no one finds this stat impressive? There is no one other than Mario or Wayne that have done this.

 

[zar]

After all the other shit I read in this sub forum, it’s appropriate to post this thread here. .

Kucherov has had a great season and I have respect for his talent… but I still dislike the guy.

 

[olli]

Hoping he gets 2 assists tonight

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

MacKinnon is more Canadian tho

 

[Roksta]

Would be pretty funny if he gets 100 apples and not McDavid

 

[Divine]

Every 100 assist season by a forward had 40+ goals surprisingly (Bobby Orr had 37 goals).

 

[tfwnogf]

Would be pretty funny if he gets 100 apples and not McDavid

if mcdavid doesn't get an assist against the sharks, he should retire

 

[Crosby2010]

MacKinnon is more Canadian tho

It might not be the western media's preference to have Kuch win it, but MacKinnon is taking the Hart in my opinion.

 

[ijuka]

It's not all that telling, actually. Look at it via probability functions and you'll see that it's actually quite likely. The reason is that as long as the other player's goal-assist ratio isn't practically identical with Kucherov's, he'll need to have scored significantly more points to meet these requirements.

 

[Crosby2010]

It's not all that telling, actually. Look at it via probability functions and you'll see that it's actually quite likely. The reason is that as long as the other player's goal-assist ratio isn't practically identical with Kucherov's, he'll need to have scored significantly more points to meet these requirements.

I do not see how it is quite likely. There are two people who have done this, Mario once and Gretzky 8 times.

 

[NVious]

McDavid had a better year than him last year, this is just semantics, the way some people talk about Kucherov you'd think he was some persecuted figure or something, the guy is having an awesome year, but so are many others.

 

[LemonSauceD]

McDavid had a better year than him last year, this is just semantics, the way some people talk about Kucherov you'd think he was some persecuted figure or something, the guy is having an awesome year, but so are many others.

I like Kucherov but he isn’t JT Miller levels of awesomeness.

 

[Madap]

Mackinnon has pretty much the same amount of points but more goals and yet Kucherov s season is utterly incredible?

This is one of those stats that sound cool but is ultimately meaningless. Kucherov is having an amazing season that should be celebrated, but not because of this stat.

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

Its a hell of a season. For comparison the list of players with more goals & assists as McDavid last year is:

Gretzky x 4

Lemieux x 4

Yzerman x 1

 

[NVious]

I like Kucherov but he isn’t JT Miller levels of awesomeness.

Exactly, JT Miller did what Kuch did in his rookie year when he got triple exemption at age 15, the NHL just scrubbed it from everywhere because he made the sport into a joke.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Kucherov also reversed-hit that big bitch Tom Wilson right in the face recently, which should be worth some extra goals and assists in my book.

 

[Crosby2010]

Mackinnon has pretty much the same amount of points but more goals and yet Kucherov s season is utterly incredible?

This is one of those stats that sound cool but is ultimately meaningless. Kucherov is having an amazing season that should be celebrated, but not because of this stat.

Well, what is more impressive perhaps is that the only people with more points in a single season are:
Oates, Bossy, Lafontaine, Nicholls, Jagr, Yzerman, McDavid

The ones that did it more than once:
Esposito (unless Kuch surpasses 145 points), Mario, Gretzky

Its a hell of a season. For comparison the list of players with more goals & assists as McDavid last year is:

Gretzky x 4

Lemieux x 4

Yzerman x 1

Good comparison