Value of: The value of Max Pacioretty to contending teams only

[Mrb1p]

Lee is coming off a 34 goal season and on pace for 40+ goals now.He provides a physical presence on Tavares lw.

Ladd has a ntc. The Ladd-Barzal-Eberle line is very productive, with Ladd providing the physical presence on that line.

Isles are 2nd or 3rd in league scoring.
Not gonna be in the mix for Patches.

I know Lee is doing good, but Patches would add a lot of offense to this team and im pretty certain hed thrive there not being "the guy". Not upgrading on your team because your second in scoring isnt a good reason. Obviously you'd have other options but if Pac is available at your price i dont see the Isle not going in.

 

[Mrb1p]

I dont think this would ever happen but:

Oilers: Nuge, Lucic, Caleb Jones, 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd
Habs: Paches, Galchenyuk

I'd love for Chuck to be traded and id do it for any package but thats a terrible package that i dont even trade for Galchenyuk alone if im NOT Bergevin.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I dont think this would ever happen but:

Oilers: Nuge, Lucic, Caleb Jones, 2018 2nd, 2018 3rd
Habs: Paches, Galchenyuk

lolz. habs don't touch that with a 20 foot poll .nice try sneaking lucic's contract in there

 

[EDMOILERS9729]

lolz. habs don't touch that with a 20 foot poll .nice try sneaking lucic's contract in there

What about strome or maroon instead of lucic?

 

[Kraken Jokes]

from here


and here:


there are several pacioretty threads as hab fans look to fix what ails them

You found one trade proposal, and though it is a bad one, I agree, it is not demonstrably Pacioretty for PLD. It's Pacioretty, the Habs best C prospect and a 1st for PLD. Again, I agree that it's not a deal CLB should make at this point but it comes nowhere close to being proof of what you're trying to say.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Carlsson+2nd+?

My post was in regard to whether Columbus would be after Roslovic from WPG, not about Pacioretty to CLB. I don't see anything that would work between CLB and MTL.

 

[72hockey guy]

I know Lee is doing good, but Patches would add a lot of offense to this team and im pretty certain hed thrive there not being "the guy". Not upgrading on your team because your second in scoring isnt a good reason. Obviously you'd have other options but if Pac is available at your price i dont see the Isle not going in.

wasting the assets it would take is a great reason. We dont need pacioretty, we do need to improve our defense, especially in a cost controlled way using the draft. If we use both firsts in the upcoming draft and get the next Trouba on an ELC, that brings us so much closer to a title, way more than Pacioretty ever could.

 

[rent free]

Fair comment but never say never.

Yah because the habs and blues are working on a Thomas for patches trade...

 

[CREW99AW]

I know Lee is doing good, but Patches would add a lot of offense to this team and im pretty certain hed thrive there not being "the guy". Not upgrading on your team because your second in scoring isnt a good reason. Obviously you'd have other options but if Pac is available at your price i dont see the Isle not going in.

Isles needs are solidifying the goaltending and 2nd pairing.

No interest in wasting trade chips that could be used in those areas on a scorer.

 

[Stuzchuk]

My post was in regard to whether Columbus would be after Roslovic from WPG, not about Pacioretty to CLB. I don't see anything that would work between CLB and MTL.

I guess you're not too familiar with WPG, they're in no need of top 6 winger at the moment, they are looking for a decent LHD as per TSN's sportcenter. All their winger (LW) are young and developing very well
CONNOR // SCHEIFELE // WHEELER
EHLERS //LITTLE // LAINE

and as far as I'm concern, "The value of Max Pacioretty to contending teams only"... Columbus, not in contention?!?

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I guess you're not too familiar with WPG, they're in no need of top 6 winger at the moment, they are looking for a decent LHD as per TSN's sportcenter. All their winger (LW) are young and developing very well
CONNOR // SCHEIFELE // WHEELER
EHLERS //LITTLE // LAINE

and as far as I'm concern, "The value of Max Pacioretty to contending teams only"... Columbus, not in contention?!?

Columbus is also not looking for LWers. They're looking for Cs, just like MTL.

 

[Stuzchuk]

I'd take Pacioretty over Jenner everyday of the week

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I'd take Pacioretty over Jenner everyday of the week

I'm sure but CLB needs centres more than wingers and won't pay as much as a team that needs a winger more. If they have assets to spare, it's for a C.

 

[72hockey guy]

Yah because the habs and blues are working on a Thomas for patches trade...

from what blues fans said in a few threads, they want no part of that.

listen nobody is denying Price is great goalie. but teams understand that at 10.5m, having him means you have to sacrifice elsewhere on the roster. and other teams want no part of that.

its not price's fault but it is a factor

 

[MattMartin]

Pacioretty is worth a bit more than what Calgary fave up for Hamonic.
Pacioretty is a 30 goals player and dirt cheap contract with another year remaining.


2 first round picks, top prospect and roster player.

If Columbus offers which highly doubt because Torts don’t like Patches. You are looking at Josh Anderson, a prospect and 2 firsts

I don't think that will happen, JMHO.

 

[Benstheman]

I don't think that will happen, JMHO.

I agree. Right now, Anderson is not far from being as good as Pacioretty. And considering age and all, i think Anderson + 1st would be fair value for Pacioretty but i'm pretty sure Columbus don't do it.

 

[MikeC]

Lee is coming off a 34 goal season and on pace for 40+ goals now.He provides a physical presence on Tavares lw.

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Thanks for the laugh! Asked anyone in Montreal...does Pac has a physical presence to his games? You will get a huge NO!!!!!

 

[Viqsi]

I agree. Right now, Anderson is not far from being as good as Pacioretty. And considering age and all, i think Anderson + 1st would be fair value for Pacioretty but i'm pretty sure Columbus don't do it.

More to the point, Anderson is an actual power forward. And we're not breaking up the PB&J line - especially not now, what with injuries to everything and everyone else.

 

[TK 421]

from what blues fans said in a few threads, they want no part of that.

listen nobody is denying Price is great goalie. but teams understand that at 10.5m, having him means you have to sacrifice elsewhere on the roster. and other teams want no part of that.

its not price's fault but it is a factor

Yes, thank you for pointing this out.

The Blues will NOT be parting with Robert Thomas. A center like him who is close to NHL ready on an ELC and in an organization that desperately needs quality centers is just going to hang up the phone if his name is mentioned.

Patches is great value on that contract no doubt, Habs should get solid value for him when he's dealt but good luck pulling an ELC center as good as Thomas. Not trying to be snarky here but teams won't be lining up to trade that type of player, especially not one close to contributing at the NHL level.

 

[rent free]

from what blues fans said in a few threads, they want no part of that.

listen nobody is denying Price is great goalie. but teams understand that at 10.5m, having him means you have to sacrifice elsewhere on the roster. and other teams want no part of that.

its not price's fault but it is a factor

My post was sarcasm

 

[rent free]

I agree. Right now, Anderson is not far from being as good as Pacioretty. And considering age and all, i think Anderson + 1st would be fair value for Pacioretty but i'm pretty sure Columbus don't do it.

Right now Anderson has more value than max imo. He is on a much cheaper contract, is scoring more and is more physical (he fights sometimes right?) he is the type of player cbj needs now and in the near future

 

[member 290103]

What about strome or maroon instead of lucic?

I thought we were only supposed to discuss contending teams as destinations for Patches?

 

[gillyguzzler]

you didnt, i was just referring to the rest of the thread in general since the Habs need a center

I just read the preceding posts and I failed to see where it was Patches for PLD or Patches for a #1C. It's ok to be constantly critical of all posts here but facts matter as well.

I'd certainly open to trading Patches for someone else than PLD and not necessarily for a #1C. I'd take a #2C, a prospect and a pick among many other possibilities.

 

[gillyguzzler]

I thought we were only supposed to discuss contending teams as destinations for Patches?

Strome with Nurse and a pick maybe but Strome really doesn't address a glaring need. Nope for Maroon although he is a good hockey player. Patches would probably wake up in Edmonton. He needs a change of scenery.

 

[boredmale]

I know Lee is doing good, but Patches would add a lot of offense to this team and im pretty certain hed thrive there not being "the guy". Not upgrading on your team because your second in scoring isnt a good reason. Obviously you'd have other options but if Pac is available at your price i dont see the Isle not going in.

I made this argument when leaf fans try propose deals for JVR during the summer but trading for Patches is basically making a deal for the sake of making a deal not making a trade that addresses a specific need (and that to me is bad asset management)

As I pointed out in another thread I think Plekanec would actually make more sense in addressing problems on this team if the Islanders were to deal with Montreal(and he could be had for cheaper)