The Semin is the Debil / Grinders Uber Alles Thread

[Marshall]

No fanbase loves their ex-players the way this one does. It's weird, honestly.

 

[Raikkonen]

Trotz says Ovie always does what he's asked and that he was just getting bad advice in the past. Couldn't the same be true of Semin?

Now I see where lies the problem with Semin. Nobody told him not to take stick penalties!

 

[SDBondra]

What's next? People clamoring for George McPhee to come back?

Let's get the gang back together to relive the glory days of 1-and-done meltdowns.

Do you think Semin was the reason we didn't get out of the first round?

In our most famous first round loss (to Halak and his supporters from Montreal), Semin averaged more than 6 shots per game:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...pitals-eastern-conference-quarter-finals.html

He was one of our best players that series but Halak just had his number.

 

[EroCaps]

If past record is the determining factor, we're doomed with Trotz

Maybe they are. But he's never had superstars up front. We'll find out.

 

[EroCaps]

Do you think Semin was the reason we didn't get out of the first round?

In our most famous first round loss (to Halak and his supporters from Montreal), Semin averaged more than 6 shots per game:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...pitals-eastern-conference-quarter-finals.html

He was one of our best players that series but Halak just had his number.

Selective memory.

Caps fans need to get out of their bubble and watch winning hockey teams play sometimes.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

No fanbase loves their ex-players the was this one does. It's weird, honestly.

For some reason I don't think we'll have this problem with Green.

I think the Semin hate was irritational. I think he was a product of our idiot general manager refusing to have a veteran coach lead a bunch of talented young players.

I think we have the absolute problem: nobody hates their players as much as this fan base. We had posters wanting to trade Ovechkin last year. We have fans who can't give guys like Burakovsky, Kuznetsov, and Wilson away fast enough. It's pretty pathetic.

 

[SpinningEdge]

Semin isn't going to come back here so no one should even be discussing this! People in the locker room had issues with him and It's just not a good thing to bring that in right now.

It was the same chance as Jagr ever coming back. Zero.

Very rarely does getting back with your ex ever work... it usually just ends even worse than the first time around.

 

[SDBondra]

Now I see where lies the problem with Semin. Nobody told him not to take stick penalties!

Haha. Touche but I don't think the stick penalties were the reason he fell out of favor. I think it had more to do with perceived laziness or people didn't like him because he's shy.

 

[EroCaps]

For some reason I don't think we'll have this problem with Green.

I think the Semin hate was irritational. I think he was a product of our idiot general manager refusing to have a veteran coach lead a bunch of talented young players.

I think we have the absolute problem: nobody hates their players as much as this fan base. We had posters wanting to trade Ovechkin last year. We have fans who can't give guys like Burakovsky, Kuznetsov, and Wilson away fast enough. It's pretty pathetic.

Semin was/is a world-class donkey. I watched the guy played for 8 years. What happened in Carolina was not the least bit surprising. I wanted the Caps to move him long ago and they would be better off today if they had.

Advocating moving guys doesn't mean you "hate" them.

 

[ChibiPooky]

Poll added.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

No fanbase loves their ex-players the was this one does. It's weird, honestly.

Sodom and Gomorrah. We're told not to look back but there's an unexplained desire to do so.

 

[SashaSemin28]

GMBM, bring Sasha home.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

The Semin "hate" has been justified multiple times by current and former players. His lack of effort/intensity had a negative effect on the locker room.

His skills are only going to deteriorate further, and without them, he brings just about nothing to a team.

 

[Corby78]

I was sad to see him go, always felt he would really break out. Now I'm glad he left and want no part of him.

 

[Raikkonen]

Semin is not a fit with AONB, at least there is no evidence of that in their history.

For Kuz line he will probably block Bura from getting top-6 TOI and... maybe not a good fit again. And Semin-Kuz-Brouwer... seriously?

3 more years of risk is too much.

And I like Semin obviously.

 

[usiel]

I'd love to have Semin come back just for shear hfboard entertainment value. The melt down would be hilarious.

 

[IvanMalison]

How on Earth is Semin "better"? How many goals does he have this year?

You really think that has nothing to do with the way his coach is treating him/an earlier injury?

 

[IvanMalison]

Do any of you saying that you don't want to go anywhere near semin realize that he has 6 points in 8 games in february?

 

[caps8]

Semin is not a fit with AONB, at least there is no evidence of that in their history.

For Kuz line he will probably block Bura from getting top-6 TOI and... maybe not a good fit again. And Semin-Kuz-Brouwer... seriously?

3 more years of risk is too much.

And I like Semin obviously.

Although I personally would prefer to not bring back Semin even at the retained salary, I clearly remember 8-19-28 being one of the most dominant and fun lines to watch whenever they would be put together (usually in late-game, desperate scenarios). Their puck movement in the offensive zone was incredible.

 

[Corby78]

Do any of you saying that you don't want to go anywhere near semin realize that he has 6 points in 8 games in february?

One month doesn't erase the last three years.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Semin is not a fit with AONB, at least there is no evidence of that in their history.

For Kuz line he will probably block Bura from getting top-6 TOI and... maybe not a good fit again. And Semin-Kuz-Brouwer... seriously?

3 more years of risk is too much.

And I like Semin obviously.

I saw a Tweet some where that said AO/NB/AS was about as dominant as you can get in terms of fancy stats. Soemthing like 70%+ Corsi.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

You really think that has nothing to do with the way his coach is treating him/an earlier injury?

Sure it does. But why would it be any different under Trotz? And shouldn't injuries be taken into account?

 

[tycoonheart]

Although I personally would prefer to not bring back Semin even at the retained salary, I clearly remember 8-19-28 being one of the most dominant and fun lines to watch whenever they would be put together (usually in late-game, desperate scenarios). Their puck movement in the offensive zone was incredible.

They were ridiculously good together from what I remember.

 

[g00n]

They were ridiculously good together from what I remember.

They could also go really cold from overpassing, trying to be too cute, bad defense and low effort. Ovechkin and Backstrom are both better defensively now, and we also have real top defensemen on the team to back them up. So it might be different this time.

 

[Drake1588]

No fanbase loves their ex-players the was this one does. It's weird, honestly.

Even garbled, cosigned. **** that guy.