The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Dubi Doo]

And making what, $12+M on his next deal? C'mon.

All the while no showing in the playoffs.

Anyone know of players Ruff has coached who may be available either via UFA or trade? One of the perks of hiring a well renowned coach is he has a lot of connections and respect from players around the league. It may help pull in UFAs or, if we're lucky, maybe even lead to a player waiving their NMC.

 

[toddkaz]

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Going off the 31 thoughts rumors from last trade deadline, how do folks feel about this trade?

Laughton + Cates = Krebs + Joki

It fills our bottom 6 center positions and opens up a RHD position that most folks here wanted to fill anyway, with Joki leaving as part of their offseason plans.

You do this move and then bring in one more punishing 4th line winger and middle-pairing RHD via UFA and you're on your way to giving Lindy a real roster to work with.

 

[Beerz]

Going off the 31 thoughts rumors from last trade deadline, how do folks feel about this trade?

Laughton + Cates = Krebs + Joki

It fills our bottom 6 center positions and opens up a RHD position that most folks here wanted to fill anyway, with Joki leaving as part of their offseason plans.

You do this move and then bring in one more punishing 4th line winger and middle-pairing RHD via UFA and you're on your way to giving Lindy a real roster to work with.

No Laughton.

 

[Ace]

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It almost an perfect plan. Unfortunately there is one fatal flaw. No one will believe Skinner worked hard enough to get injured. He will stop moving, take off his skates and walk to a seat in the stands before he takes on contact

 

[Irie]

I think the hate on Marner is unfounded.

Guy gets Selke votes every year, is a solid penalty killer, and has put up 48 points in 53 playoff games, all while every team Toronto plays in the playoffs up until this year had employed the strategy to shadow him and Matthews with their top checkers and best defensive pairs and force Nylander and Tavares to beat them.

It's crazy watching the games how little space Matthews and Marner had the past few playoffs when they take the ice with defensive specialists glued to them.

Two years ago, he 8 points and was +3 in Toronto's 7 game playoff series loss to Tampa (which they lost due to depth, not Marner). Last year he had 14 points in 11 games and was +7.

This year playing with Knies and Tavares, the points aren't there through 3 games, but I think expectations of what a player should put up playing with a 21 and a 33 year old are unrealistic.

If Buffalo had Marner instead of Skinner at just 2M more per season, I think they are a lock to make the playoffs

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Lance does mailbag video every once in a while on The Buffalo News TY channel.

Just something to watch during the off season.

 

[Beerz]

Lance does mailbag video every once in a while on The Buffalo News TY channel.

Just something to watch during the off season.

I really hate the Laughton narrative.

 

[HaNotsri]

So, in situations were teams just outright terminate contracts for 'cause' (like Mike Richards, Corey Perry), the NHL typically allows teams to and then it goes to arbitration.

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It's less than a buyout but they don't get a get out of jail free card either.

So essentially training camp in multiple countries and then we try to put illegal drugs in his bags at the airports?

 

[HaNotsri]

To me this looks like last years wishlist but I guess top 6 forward could mean any forward position.

I think we need to replace Mitts with a top 6 center, add a 3C and 4C.
Cozens can be moved to wing and become the top 6 winger we need.

We are still missing a top 4D and a decent goalie.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

All the while no showing in the playoffs.

Anyone know of players Ruff has coached who may be available either via UFA or trade? One of the perks of hiring a well renowned coach is he has a lot of connections and respect from players around the league. It may help pull in UFAs or, if we're lucky, maybe even lead to a player waiving their NMC.

UFAs
Brendan Dillon
Brady Skjei
Mattias Janmark
Tyler Myers
Tomas Tatar
Devin Shore
Tomas Nosek

Trade
Pavel Buchnevich
Erik Haula (Full NTC)
Radek Faska (5 team NTC)
Marcus Foligno (NMC)
Jamie Oleksiak (16 team NTC)
Ryan Strome
Vladisalv Namestnikov

 

[Dubi Doo]

That's a good start. I wouldn't be thrilled with Krebs centering the 4th line again, but with Ruff handling him...I'm a bit intrigued on what he can get out of him.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I’m perfectly good with Krebs on the 4th. Promoting him to the 3rd gives me pause.

 

[Chainshot]

So essentially training camp in multiple countries and then we try to put illegal drugs in his bags at the airports?

Smart Water?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Lindy likes effort and IQ. Krebs has one of those in spades, but lacks the other so things could go either way.

 

[Fjordy]

UFAs
Brendan Dillon
Brady Skjei
Mattias Janmark
Tyler Myers
Tomas Tatar
Devin Shore
Tomas Nosek

Trade
Pavel Buchnevich
Erik Haula (Full NTC)
Radek Faska (5 team NTC)
Marcus Foligno (NMC)
Jamie Oleksiak (16 team NTC)
Ryan Strome
Vladisalv Namestnikov

Buchhhhhhh

 

[Joseph Nathan]

UFAs
Brendan Dillon
Brady Skjei
Mattias Janmark
Tyler Myers
Tomas Tatar
Devin Shore
Tomas Nosek

Trade
Pavel Buchnevich
Erik Haula (Full NTC)
Radek Faska (5 team NTC)
Marcus Foligno (NMC)
Jamie Oleksiak (16 team NTC)
Ryan Strome
Vladisalv Namestnikov

Foligno was signed to 4 years extension by their bill guerin. Not only has it not officially began. He has a radioactive nmc dating back to this season. Meaning their gm isn’t trading a player just given extensions which hasn’t started and foligno isn’t waiving

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

That's a good start. I wouldn't be thrilled with Krebs centering the 4th line again, but with Ruff handling him...I'm a bit intrigued on what he can get out of him.

Ruff talked about the type of guys he likes on the 4th line the other day. Krebs doesn’t come close to matching that prototype.

 

[toddkaz]

Top 6 forward? Lawson Crouse....Gonna be expensive though

 

[Mattilaus]

Top 6 forward? Lawson Crouse....Gonna be expensive though

Doubt Utah trades away one of their marquis players before their first game and he is less likely to want to move now that he will be playing in a real arena with a fresh start for the franchise. I think we had a much better chance of snagging hom prior to the move.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

UFAs
Brendan Dillon
Brady Skjei
Mattias Janmark
Tyler Myers
Tomas Tatar
Devin Shore
Tomas Nosek

Trade
Pavel Buchnevich
Erik Haula (Full NTC)
Radek Faska (5 team NTC)
Marcus Foligno (NMC)
Jamie Oleksiak (16 team NTC)
Ryan Strome
Vladisalv Namestnikov

Buchnevich has a 12 team NTC according to capfriendly.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

UFA - Stephenson
Ufa - Wennberg
Trade - Crouse

Out

-Skinner
- Olofsson
- Jost
- Robinson
- Clauge
- Comrie

Stephenson Thompson Tuch
Benson Cozens Quinn
Crouse Krebs Peterka
Girgensons Wennberg Greenway

Dahlin Samuelsson
Byram Power
Johnson Clifton

UPL
Levi

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Any of these in NHL next season?

Kulich
Savoie
Rosen
Ostlund

 

[TehDoak]

Listening to Lindy's interview, he mentions four dangerous lines. Thinking back to 05-06, when he coached another very young team scattered with vets- I vaguely remember young players scattered across all 4 lines.

He also mentioned players making themselves uncomfortable. For example, if someone struggles blocking shots or playing defense- he wants those players to shift out of their comfort zone, start doing those things, and become a better player.

So, in my mind, he's going to want all four lines being at least adequate defensively. I dont think we'll see another Skinner-Thompson-Tuch esque line. It's more likely he'll put his version of Grier and Hecht on scoring lines. Didn't Grier play with Drury and Hecht with Briere in 05-06?

I'm actually getting excited for next season. I believe Lindy is going to want a couple of role players added, and his lineup choices should be intriguing.

That team wasn’t that young. 2005-06 Buffalo Sabres Roster, Stats, Injuries, Scores, Results, Shootouts | Hockey-Reference.com

Most of the roster was prime age (25-28) with a few in the in their early 20s. Nothing like the youth we have now en masse.

 

[OkimLom]

Any of these in NHL next season?

Kulich
Savoie
Rosen
Ostlund

As starters, I hope not. But I do think Kulich and Rosen are first call ups. I need to see more consistency from both Rosen and Kulich before I’m giving them a spot, as I feel their games dropped in the middle of the year sharply.

Ostlund and Savoie should be in Rochester as well as I think they should get a full year in the AHL.

But that’s my opinion and I hold the thought of not giving spots until they look more like a finished product than we have seen from called up prospects.