The Offseason Extravaganza: Part I

[Vladdy84]

Hawks traded Saad to the BJ's.

Kenny?

 

[Boomhower]

That makes no sense.. they could have waited until next year. Buyout would then only be 4 years, rather than 6. There would have been great value to wait... unless they have something planned this year.

 

[Retire91]

So does this make Weiss another failure for KH?

Yes yet another one. Guy never played his intended role and now sucks up 1.5 million in cap space over the next 6 seasons. I would mark that as a GM failure.

 

[SimplySolace]

Hawks traded Saad to the BJ's.

Kenny?

You know what's better than Saad? ****ing depth man. We need Cleary, Andersson, Ferraro etc.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Hawks got rid of a younger and more talented player than Helm and Gator because he priced himself out of Chicago.

Meanwhile Detroit is making cap space for re signing players like Gator and Helm.

 

[Kronwalled55]

I'm done. Everyone is a Red Wing for life.

 

[Boomhower]

After this Weiss move, my instincts are telling me Mike Green is on his way to Detroit tomorrow... my feelings about that are very mixed!

 

[Ricelund]

“If we don’t do anything I’m satisfied heading into the season,†Wings general manager Ken Holland said during a phone interview. “We probably have interest on the market of guys that are shorter term rather than longer term, depending who they are.

Source

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I'm done. Everyone is a Red Wing for life.

To be fair, Sheahan, Mrazek, Dekeyser are all worth keeping. If Helm could stay healthy he would be worth 3 million per. Abdelkader will get way overpaid, but if he can consistently pot 20 a season I won't complain.

I have no trouble with intending to keep those listed players.

I do have a hard time believing we are going to buck the current NHL trend which is surrounding cheap, good RFAs (which we have) with more expensive veteran players to create a solid team.

We could easily add a top-six UFA and Green and be a cup contender next year. I have a really hard time believing we bought out Weiss to make room for those players since that would still put us waaay under the cap. Especially since Franzen is probably done.

Remember, Holland and Frazen can't really openly say he's done and then LTIR him into retirement. They have to play the game.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Source

We can remove Mike Green from the list.

Kenny on the phone with Green

"Hey, Mike would you be willing to take a short term deal, so that you will be 33 when your contract ends?

Click...

Mike...Mike...You still there?

How long till Holland trades for Bieksa?

 

[Frk It]

Source

Paul Martin on a short term deal?

I would like that!

 

[Shaman464]

Source

Translation: I want to make the playoffs, but I want to clinch and be eliminated in April.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

How long till Holland trades for Bieksa?

Now why'd you have to say that?

The asking price was 2 2nds and you know Kenny will pay that.

 

[A II R]

Now why'd you have to say that?

The asking price was 2 2nds and you know Kenny will pay that.

Nope! Bieksa to the Ducks for 1 2nd rounder. Phew!

 

[Ricelund]

 

[ArGarBarGar]

At least now people can shut up about the "Holland going after Bieksa" crap.

 

[Kronwalled55]

To be fair, Sheahan, Mrazek, Dekeyser are all worth keeping. If Helm could stay healthy he would be worth 3 million per. Abdelkader will get way overpaid, but if he can consistently pot 20 a season I won't complain.

I have no trouble with intending to keep those listed players.

I do have a hard time believing we are going to buck the current NHL trend which is surrounding cheap, good RFAs (which we have) with more expensive veteran players to create a solid team.

We could easily add a top-six UFA and Green and be a cup contender next year. I have a really hard time believing we bought out Weiss to make room for those players since that would still put us waaay under the cap. Especially since Franzen is probably done.

Remember, Holland and Frazen can't really openly say he's done and then LTIR him into retirement. They have to play the game.

I agree that Sheahan, Mrazek, and DeKeyser are worth keeping. I just don't think Helm and Abdelkader are. They've played their best years here, time to move on before you're stuck with them and their declines.

As for the bolded, not only is it difficult to get both a top 6 forward and top pairing defenseman, but I don't think it puts Detroit in the contender category. Unless Detroit is getting the classic Zetterberg and Datsyuk back this coming season, they're just not there.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

At least now people can shut up about the "Holland going after Bieksa" crap.

I feel that was directed at me...

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I feel that was directed at me...

That was directed at the constant discussion about a rumor that didn't exist. Not specifically towards anybody.

People were just assuming Holland was going to trade for him without any rumor or speculation from the media or a source in the NHL.

 

[Flowah]

What a trade by Chicago and CBJ. Wonder if we kicked the tires on that one.

 

[Frk It]

“I want to be able to have the flexibility that some of these kids can make our team or have an opportunity throughout the season to call them up if they’re playing well and we can wheel them up,” Holland said. “We’re going to explore free agency. It’s not a deep class. There’s lots of players there, but most of the players that are available we feel our young players can develop into that somewhat quickly.

Better late than never, I suppose.

http://www.dailytribune.com/sports/20150630/wings-lean-right-but-not-at-any-cost

Pretty good article, Holland talks about his philosophy for the off-season. Guess tomorrow will be more telling though.

 

[r0bert8841]

Regardless of what happens tomorrow, this has been one of the most entertaining off seasons in recent memory in my opinion. Loving all this movement and mystery. And expansion talks.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Better late than never, I suppose.

http://www.dailytribune.com/sports/20150630/wings-lean-right-but-not-at-any-cost

Pretty good article, Holland talks about his philosophy for the off-season. Guess tomorrow will be more telling though.

His words mean ****. If you mean it, actually do it.

 

[Boomhower]

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/06/30/detroit-red-wings-brendan-smith/29527957/

Given that next year Marchenko and Ouellet, along with Ryan Sproul, will all be out of waiver exemptions, the Wings need to find out whether they are NHL-caliber defensemen. That renders it further unlikely they'll sign a blue liner when the UFA market opens Wednesday.

"I've talked to lots of teams," Holland said. "Would I like to get a right-shot D-man, yes. I haven't been able to find a fit. Let's go to camp with these guys and it can sort itself out."

OK, so why buy out Weiss then? I feel like HSJ is being fed some misinformation as a Ken Holland smoke screen. we shall see.

 

[Flowah]

Better late than never, I suppose.

http://www.dailytribune.com/sports/20150630/wings-lean-right-but-not-at-any-cost

Pretty good article, Holland talks about his philosophy for the off-season. Guess tomorrow will be more telling though.

After that quote, if Holland brings Cleary back on a one way contract we'll know he's full of it.