Johnny Engine
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I mean, if you’re including guys like Rob Ray, being a big name does matter. But my goodness, that’s not a strike against Lidstrom. Everyone knows how good that guy was.
Who is number two for the Lightning? I'm sure MSL is number one. Is Stammer number two?
It's Vinny, Stamkos' obvious peak edge didn't top Vinny's longevity.
Top 50 for Ottawa is the 1990s franchise only. There is a top 10 for the original franchise in the section on defunct franchises.
The Ottawa list was pretty good, like the rest of them. I would have liked to see Hossa over Heatley, but I can see why Heatley was ranked first. My biggest pet peeve was actually down in the 40s—I thought Sergei Gonchar was ranked top low. Sure, he only played 3 seasons, but he was an important player. How is he behind Bryan Smolinski, who also played 3 seasons and was just not as good?
I also would have liked to see Steve Duchesne on Ottawa’s list. OK, only 2 seasons, but he was the first #1 defenceman in franchise history (apologies to Norm MacIver) and a big part of the first playoff team. Similarly, I was surprised to see Igor Larionov and Sergei Makarov omitted from San Jose’s top 50.
I don't know if former franchises were included in this.
Seventies, have you ever participated in something like this before? I've been reading your posts around here for a long time, but don't remember you ever mentioning anything like this. I could have just missed it, or maybe my age is already catching up to me. I didn't think I was that old, but time makes fools of us all.Yes, they were. Top-10 for each... the lists and writeups were 100% me.
Yes, you should get this
I didn't see Bob Goldham on the Detroit list, so he'd probably get my vote as best defenceman left off.Best player to not make any Top-50...?
I feel like it's probably a player who spent most of its time on an O-6 team, but not quite enough to make the Top-50, also played a bit elsewhere and had a shorter career for whatever reason.
Seventies, have you ever participated in something like this before? I've been reading your posts around here for a long time, but don't remember you ever mentioning anything like this. I could have just missed it, or maybe my age is already catching up to me. I didn't think I was that old, but time makes fools of us all.
In any event, very cool. I'd trust the historians on this board over pretty much anyone, so it's nice to see your involvement in such a publication.
I didn't see Bob Goldham on the Detroit list, so he'd probably get my vote as best defenceman left off.
I was trying to see if anyone other than Jagr appeared on four different lists, but couldn't find any. I thought Larry Murphy would, but he also missed the cut on the Detroit list.
Tony McKegney is not mentioned anywhere.
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=11080
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_McKegney
What's absurd is that you think you can judge the quality of a captain. You need to be with a team day after day after day and in the locker room to have even the faintest idea of the ability of a captain.Neither Toews nor Crosby is top-10 in terms of captains in hockey history, heck, not even in terms of the NHL!
Ab-surd!
But again, McCabe's 2004 was definitely better than any of Kaberle's seasons
Jagr as just a Penguin has scored MORE points (1079 to 1036) at a better points per game average (1.33 to 1.31) but the margin of difference is incredibly small.
Of course, in the playoffs, Crosby has 164 pts in 148 playoff games whereas in Pittsburgh only, Jagr has 145 points in just 140 playoff games.
So, ignoring Jagr's 12+ seasons elsewhere, their careers are remarkably similar!
If I hadn't seen those playoffs, yeah. Trophy counting seems a bit tarnished when one disagreed with the awarding of it in the first place.But the similarity ends with the 2 Conn Smythes don't you think?
I couldn't disagree more.
Bryan McCabe had a ten cent head. His hockey sense was lousy and his defensive ability was a joke. He shot the puck well and he could play physical hockey, but he was absolutely clueless defensively and was a liability on the ice unless his team was on the power play.