The Hockey is Back/CBA Talk Thread

[Hemsky4PM]

Compliance buy-outs will essentially become reserved for absolutely useless players, like Gomez, Redden and Dipietro as examples.

Guys like Horcoff will have reasonable changes of being traded. I could definitely see a scenario where the Oilers move him and 50% of his salary, pick up the other 40% of the salary and 50% of the cap hit for two years. Why not? How about Horcoff for Regehr or something like that as a deadline deal?

 

[Dorian2]

Bwahaha, entitlement.

The NHL owes you nothing. You don't like how the NHL or the PA does their business? Then don't watch. Simple as that. Whining that you're owed something is ridiculous.

I agree. I don't owe the players or the NHL anything, and they do not owe me anything. It's 100% my decision to put ANY money towards live games, merchandise, sports channel subscriptions, etc.

I'm a fan and want to be entertained. If I want the entertainment, I'll pay. If I don't, I'll find other things to spend my entertainment money on.

Hell, there's lots of free porn on the internet, isn't there?

 

[joestevens29]

Woah, I definitely didn't hear about this either.

Definitely an interesting twist.

The more I think about it the more I wonder what exactly it does.

I mean sure if you traded Redden to the Isles and you as the Rangers paid 50% of his salary it would make sense. But if you also have to take the cap, does it really do all that much? I guess some teams will be using it, but I don't think it's going to be used as much as I intially thought.

 

[dustrock]

Yeah it's one of those things where it sounds like a great idea, but maybe you're less likely to get those insane deals with the new CBA and it won't be used very often.

IIRC, the NBA trades with money all the time.

 

[joestevens29]

Yeah it's one of those things where it sounds like a great idea, but maybe you're less likely to get those insane deals with the new CBA and it won't be used very often.

IIRC, the NBA trades with money all the time.

I can see it maybe on guys like say Bulin. 1 year not worth 3.75mil, but if a team takes him for 1.875 they might have themselves a not so overpriced short term backup.

 

[s7ark]

From this article, this is an interesting addition to the CBA. no more burying contracts in the minors.

Another thing is that players’ full salaries cannot be buried in the minors or Europe anymore. Anything over the minimum salary plus $375,000 will count against the salary cap. Teams’ mistakes will now cost them dearly.

 

[Njoy Oilers]

From this article, this is an interesting addition to the CBA. no more burying contracts in the minors.

And, so it should. Have some of these shop aholic GM's get bit. Maybe we'll see some sanity reign, instead of the status quo that was the old CBA.

 

[Oil Gauge]

Some new details emerging from the CBA
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UFA will now have an interview period with teams before july 1st. After the draft up until june 30 players get to meet with teams. This should mean more big UFAs sign on July 1st because they should have met with teams and made a decision by june 30th

Retaining salary in trades
This one is a bit confusing *to me. What i understood was teams can now retain up to 50% of a players salary/cap hit when trading him as a result the team on the otherside doesn't get as bad a contract, if that makes any sense. So. For example its like the Oilers trading Horcoff but keeping half of his salary and cap hit so the team getting him gets a reasonable contract with him and in this scenario we can get something back for him. Its supposed to help facilitate more trades.

Compliance buyouts
This is directly taken from the article*
"Teams will be allowed up to two buyouts over the next two summers -- 2013 and 2014 -- either one in each summer or two in one summer and none in the other. The new detail here that I found interesting is that any player bought out under these circumstances CANNOT be re-acquired by that same team during the upcoming season, not by waivers, not by trade and not by free-agent signing."

There is also something in there about a Luongo rule and player pensions that i'm not going to get into but definitely a good read.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/21219/trades-cheat-deals-and-more-cba-details

haha the "NEW" detail is exactly the same as the last CBA. Lebrun is an idiot.

I like the idea of being able to trade salary/cap hit. It will make trades a lot easier for teams right up against the cap. it will also make players like horcoff tradeable.

 

[syz]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
In a 48-game schedule, there'll be no play between conferences. East plays East and West plays West. But here's the schedule matrix for 48:

Each team plays: 4 games vs. two Divisional opponents (8); 5 games vs. two divisional opponents (10); 3 games vs 10 Conference rivals (30).

 

[402]

haha the "NEW" detail is exactly the same as the last CBA. Lebrun is an idiot.

New detail as in it wasn't yet known information its foolish to assume something from the last cba remained the same in this cba, he doesn't mean a new idea that is being used in this cba he means new information that was not yet clear

 

[s7ark]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
In a 48-game schedule, there'll be no play between conferences. East plays East and West plays West. But here's the schedule matrix for 48:

Each team plays: 4 games vs. two Divisional opponents (8); 5 games vs. two divisional opponents (10); 3 games vs 10 Conference rivals (30).

Well, I like that loads better than 7 games against all div opponents. I hope our 5 games series are versus the Flames and Avs.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
In a 48-game schedule, there'll be no play between conferences. East plays East and West plays West. But here's the schedule matrix for 48:

Each team plays: 4 games vs. two Divisional opponents (8); 5 games vs. two divisional opponents (10); 3 games vs 10 Conference rivals (30).

Greedy ****ers... if they had just made a 46 game schedule it would be an equalized 4 games vs each divisional team... but of course that's 2 less games of revenue $$$$$$. I'm surprised they don't do 50 games with 5 vs each divisional team. I'm sure they would if they could but the scheduling likely doesn't work out in the time span they have left.

 

[stratedge]

"free agent frenzy" will actually be interesting again rather than being just a bunch of guys trying to awkwardly fill time, as it has been the last few years.

 

[stratedge]

Well, I like that loads better than 7 games against all div opponents. I hope our 5 games series are versus the Flames and Avs.

We'll probably get Flames and Canucks, just a hunch.

People are talking like we are going to walk all over the Flames... I am probably alone but I am worried about them. I actually liked the moves they pulled off during the summer.